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		<title>A truth of Asymmetric Follow: On sadness, fans and fantasy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James Governor</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tweet A while ago I put forward Asymmetric Follow as a name to describe one of the key phenomena driving Twitter adoption &#8211; the asymmetrical nature of the model, which suits the kind of scale-free networks we see on the internet, and the architectural pattern of publish and subscribe. The idea evidently has legs. When [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/notsogoodphotography/503637906/"><img class="alignnone" title="the smile of a man with a wild fan base" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/503637906_812e2e28b2.jpg?v=0" alt="" width="500" height="336" /></a></p>
<p>A while ago I put forward <a href="http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/12/05/assymetrical-follow-a-core-web-20-pattern/">Asymmetric Follow</a> as a name to describe one of the key phenomena driving Twitter adoption &#8211; the asymmetrical nature of the model, which suits the kind of s<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale-free_network">cale-free</a> networks we see on the internet, and the architectural pattern of publish and subscribe. The idea evidently has legs. When even a cynic like Dare Obasanjo <a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2009/03/05/TwitterEnvyAsymmetricFollowComesToFacebook.aspx">uses the terminology</a>, rather than leaving your guts in a puddle on the floor, you&#8217;re probably onto something.</p>
<p>But since I wrote the piece something has been bothering me-namely that the real power comes from Asymmetric Reply rather than Follow. If the root node never replies, then the phenomenon is far less interesting. Its fairly easy for me to track people that reach out to me with direct messages or @replies on twitter- after all, I only have five thousand followers. But what if I was @wossy (150k) or @stephenfry (301k) or Scobleizer (72k)?</p>
<p>The A in A-list probably stands for &#8220;administration&#8221;. Everyone wants a piece of you. Ping. Ping. Ping. I still believe that the whales can reply in order to build a rich conversational community. But its hard.</p>
<p><a href="http://scobleizer.com/">Scobleizer</a>, for example, pushes as much traffic to <a href="http://friendfeed.com/scobleizer">FriendFeed</a> as possible, because he strongly appreciates the filtering mechanisms there. Stephen Fry puts forward a <a href="http://www.stephenfry.com/blog/2009/03/02/retweet/">tortuous lottery scheme</a> for the chance to be included in his twitter stream.</p>
<p>ADD remains one way to keep abreast of stuff (that&#8217;s my strategy!). Lots of <a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=monkchips">self-searching</a> etc.</p>
<p>Well last week I had a chance to walk in the fan&#8217;s shoes, and of course I learned a lot, while trying to build buzz for our charitable efforts for <a href="http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2009/03/12/building-a-wall-out-of-red-noses-one-tweet-at-a-time/">Red Nose Day</a>. I have to admit I hated it. I *really* wanted to get the attention of @wossy or @stephenfry. Could I? Of course not. These guys have day jobs&#8230;</p>
<p>But it was only on spending a lot of time surfing around user profiles to check for spambots that I discovered how profoundly depressing the celebrities on Twitter phenomenon can be. It was coming across profiles of Twitter users following ten or so celebrities on Twitter (and nobody else), wondering why their questions weren&#8217;t being answered. Why are they ignoring me, I keep asking them questions? After I saw a few of these profiles I felt a little depressed.</p>
<p>Just as we can&#8217;t expect celebrities to understand all the tools they can use with Twitter to build relationships with fans, so as Twitter hits the mainstream, and millions more users join the network they aren&#8217;t going to know the &#8220;tricks&#8221; of Twitter relationship building. Lets face it I know these tricks pretty well, and I couldn&#8217;t get attention when i needed it, even for a BBC charidee event.</p>
<p>It was sad to see people defining themselves by their disappointments. I can only hope that as more people use twitter they can discover that the real beauty of Twitter is that &#8220;ordinary&#8221; people are awesome, interesting and entertaining. (As if twitter could teach this lesson!). I follow around 700 folks, and the celebs would be the first to go if I had to cull my list.</p>
<p>I loved this <a href="http://www.stevelawson.net/wordpress/2009/03/twitter-sucks-so-change-your-friends/">post</a> from solobasssteve today.</p>
<blockquote><p>The celebrity bit of twitter is a fairly pointless sideshow within the grand scheme of things. That there are people who spend all day trying to get an answer from Jonathan Ross or Stephen Fry says more about them than it does about twitter. It’s the same people who hang round outside film premiers. And they don’t reflect badly on cinema as an art form.</p></blockquote>
<p>Steve continues:</p>
<blockquote><p>It’s an entirely permissions-based system. So if you want to get a comment out of <a title="link to Dave Gorman's page on twitter" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/twitter.com/dave_gorman?referer=http://search.twitter.com/search?q=monkchips+german');" href="http://twitter.com/dave_gorman">Dave Gorman</a> or <a title="link to Twitter page for former england Rugby captain, Will Carling" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.twitter.com/willcarling?referer=http://search.twitter.com/search?q=monkchips+german');" href="http://www.twitter.com/willcarling">Will Carling</a> or <a title="link to Demi Moore's page on twitter" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/twitter.com/mrskutcher?referer=http://search.twitter.com/search?q=monkchips+german');" href="http://twitter.com/mrskutcher">Demi Moore</a>, you’ll have to engage them the way you would anyone else. Celeb obsessives notwithstanding, Twitter is a great leveler.</p></blockquote>
<p>What is my point? Not exactly sure. But publish is as important as subscribe, and reply is as important as follow. We&#8217;ll all learn a lot about this over the next couple of years.</p>
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		<title>Adobe: Its all about corralling the opportunities</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James Governor</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tweet I just had lunch with Kevin Lynch, CTO of Adobe, after spending a day and half at Adobe&#8217;s enterprisey analyst show. It was pretty funny to hear an analyst at an Adobe gig asking what AIR is&#8230; But then this wasn&#8217;t your usual Adobe crowd. I will be writing the event up in a [...]]]></description>
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<p>I just had lunch with Kevin Lynch, CTO of Adobe, after spending a day and half at Adobe&#8217;s enterprisey analyst show. </p>
<p>It was pretty funny to hear an analyst at an Adobe gig asking what AIR is&#8230; But then this wasn&#8217;t your usual Adobe crowd.  I will be writing the event up in a little more depth but I just wanted to get this placeholder in place before I jump on the plane. </p>
<p>Adobe <del datetime="2008-07-29T11:12:20+00:00">Lifecycle</del> <a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/livecycle/">LiveCycle ES</a> is making significant headway in insurance, mortgage approval, Life Sciences and Government.</p>
<p>Flex is popping up all over the place.</p>
<p>But now its time for Adobe to make the investments it needs to support these new communities, customers and ecosystems. The idea that Adobe can maintain the same margins as its historical business just is not tenable. Selling to the enterprise is not the same as selling shrinkwrapped software to designers.</p>
<p>Adobe needs to invest to win. That way it can build trust and long term relationships with its customers. Hey &#8211; it might even start to make money on maintenance&#8230; </p>
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