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	<title>Comments on: EMC and the Cloud, Or Le Nuage et Le Petit Prince</title>
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		<title>By: VMware Zimbra: Integration without Context Shift</title>
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		<dc:creator>VMware Zimbra: Integration without Context Shift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As I just mentioned, Zimbra was never designed for cloud only deployment- on the contrary it can work just fine as an on premise open source email, messaging and collaboration server. Oh yeah- works well with Outlook too! Yahoo never seems to have decided one way or another what to do with its acquisition. VMWare has a much clearer view: Zimbra will fit neatly into a hybrid cloud play, potentially with an associated storage play for parent company of the parent company EMC. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As I just mentioned, Zimbra was never designed for cloud only deployment- on the contrary it can work just fine as an on premise open source email, messaging and collaboration server. Oh yeah- works well with Outlook too! Yahoo never seems to have decided one way or another what to do with its acquisition. VMWare has a much clearer view: Zimbra will fit neatly into a hybrid cloud play, potentially with an associated storage play for parent company of the parent company EMC. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Governor&#39;s Monkchips &#187; VMware Zimbra: Integration without Context Shift</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Governor&#39;s Monkchips &#187; VMware Zimbra: Integration without Context Shift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As I just mentioned, Zimbra was never designed for cloud only deployment- on the contrary it can work just fine as an on premise open source email, messaging and collaboration server. Oh yeah- works well with Outlook too! Yahoo never seems to have decided one way or another what to do with its acquisition. VMWare has a much clearer view: Zimbra will fit neatly into a hybrid cloud play, potentially with an associated storage play for parent company of the parent company EMC. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As I just mentioned, Zimbra was never designed for cloud only deployment- on the contrary it can work just fine as an on premise open source email, messaging and collaboration server. Oh yeah- works well with Outlook too! Yahoo never seems to have decided one way or another what to do with its acquisition. VMWare has a much clearer view: Zimbra will fit neatly into a hybrid cloud play, potentially with an associated storage play for parent company of the parent company EMC. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; Re: &#8220;private cloud&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2009/12/04/emc-and-the-cloud-or-le-nuage-et-le-petit-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-547116</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; Re: &#8220;private cloud&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a pretty good rant on why private cloud is actually awesome, ask him about it sometime. Also, see James&#8217; discussion of EMC and VMWare&#8217;s private cloud recent machinations. AKPC_IDS += &quot;3659,&quot;;Popularity: 1% [?]SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: &quot;Re: &#8220;private [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a pretty good rant on why private cloud is actually awesome, ask him about it sometime. Also, see James&#8217; discussion of EMC and VMWare&#8217;s private cloud recent machinations. AKPC_IDS += &quot;3659,&quot;;Popularity: 1% [?]SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: &quot;Re: &#8220;private [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MetiaAR</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2009/12/04/emc-and-the-cloud-or-le-nuage-et-le-petit-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-546983</link>
		<dc:creator>MetiaAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;RedMonk: EMC and the cloud, Or Le Nuage et Le Petit Prince &lt;a href=&quot;http://digbig.com/5batbs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://digbig.com/5batbs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;This comment was originally posted on &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/MetiaAR/statuses/6569242195&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RedMonk: EMC and the cloud, Or Le Nuage et Le Petit Prince <a href="http://digbig.com/5batbs" rel="nofollow">http://digbig.com/5batbs</a></p>
<p><i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://twitter.com/MetiaAR/statuses/6569242195" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></i></p>
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		<title>By: SavioRodrigues</title>
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		<dc:creator>SavioRodrigues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@WebSphereClouds agree. You see @monkchips post &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/8HEKdp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/8HEKdp&lt;/a&gt; &#8220;Amazon wins customers &amp; partners&#8230;bc it has a granular billing model&#8221;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;This comment was originally posted on &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/SavioRodrigues/statuses/6497435178&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@WebSphereClouds agree. You see @monkchips post <a href="http://bit.ly/8HEKdp" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/8HEKdp</a> &#8220;Amazon wins customers &#038; partners&#8230;bc it has a granular billing model&#8221;</p>
<p><i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://twitter.com/SavioRodrigues/statuses/6497435178" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></i></p>
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		<title>By: randy_sabourin</title>
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		<dc:creator>randy_sabourin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;EMC and the Cloud, Or Le Nuage et Le Petit Prince &#8220;If the scaling is not elastic, is has no right to be called a cloud&#8221; &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/7OJx8i&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7OJx8i&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;This comment was originally posted on &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/randy_sabourin/statuses/6476579072&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EMC and the Cloud, Or Le Nuage et Le Petit Prince &#8220;If the scaling is not elastic, is has no right to be called a cloud&#8221; <a href="http://bit.ly/7OJx8i" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7OJx8i</a></p>
<p><i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://twitter.com/randy_sabourin/statuses/6476579072" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></i></p>
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		<title>By: James Governor</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Governor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>solid point DE. i have thought about that a lot. its true, that cloud can be implemented without virtualisation... but granularity without virtualisation is an awful lot harder. i once asked Werner from Amazon the same question. As far as he is concerned virtualisation is part of &quot;cloud&quot;. if he thinks so, that&#039;s good enough for me... ;-) if you actually read my posts on the subject you&#039;ll see i was quite aggressive in saying the new consensus is rather too fond of complexity for my liking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>solid point DE. i have thought about that a lot. its true, that cloud can be implemented without virtualisation&#8230; but granularity without virtualisation is an awful lot harder. i once asked Werner from Amazon the same question. As far as he is concerned virtualisation is part of &#8220;cloud&#8221;. if he thinks so, that&#8217;s good enough for me&#8230; <img src='http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  if you actually read my posts on the subject you&#8217;ll see i was quite aggressive in saying the new consensus is rather too fond of complexity for my liking.</p>
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		<title>By: More about the mainframe and cloud computing - Mainframe Propeller Head</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2009/12/04/emc-and-the-cloud-or-le-nuage-et-le-petit-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-546747</link>
		<dc:creator>More about the mainframe and cloud computing - Mainframe Propeller Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Governor, an analyst at Red Monk, writes about how major IT vendors are now pushing their consolidated architectures - what some might call [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Governor, an analyst at Red Monk, writes about how major IT vendors are now pushing their consolidated architectures &#8211; what some might call [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DE</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2009/12/04/emc-and-the-cloud-or-le-nuage-et-le-petit-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-546744</link>
		<dc:creator>DE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a more serious note, @swardley was getting concerned about definitions of cloud that include virtualization. As much as it might be a key pattern at the moment, clouds don&#039;t need virtualization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a more serious note, @swardley was getting concerned about definitions of cloud that include virtualization. As much as it might be a key pattern at the moment, clouds don&#8217;t need virtualization.</p>
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		<title>By: DE</title>
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		<dc:creator>DE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;SOA evolution&quot; sounds too similar to a bad remake. Then again..

But nice to see some Saint-Exupéry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;SOA evolution&#8221; sounds too similar to a bad remake. Then again..</p>
<p>But nice to see some Saint-Exupéry!</p>
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