Comments on: Cloud Computing: On Structural Advantages and Lessons From History #EMCWorld

By: dberlind

dberlind — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:18:33 +0000

Via @ @monkchips (re: Verizon’s use of VMware for EC2-like cloud) EMC CTO’s pimps telcos on his blog. now we know why - http://bit.ly/B8TPC

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By: monkchips

monkchips — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:26:46 +0000

@dberlind Chuck Hollis, EMC CTO, has been pimping telcos on his blog. now we know why. http://bit.ly/y2dt8 my take http://bit.ly/B8TPC

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By: James Governor

James Governor — Wed, 27 May 2009 17:52:51 +0000

just because it never happened before doesn’t mean it won’t happen now – the essential problem with arguments from history, eh?

of course its early days, and we’ll see a lot of shifts ahead, but i think calling AWS toxic for enterprises will be proved premature. Virtualisation changes everything – whaddya mean? its already been around for 40 years.

By: Chuck Hollis

Chuck Hollis — Wed, 27 May 2009 17:24:58 +0000

Hi James — very insightful perspective.

I agree wholeheartedly with you — past attempts by telcos to enter the IT infrastructure business have failed woefully.

But that doesn’t mean they’ll fail in the future, does it?

The key question might be “what’s different this time around?” and Stuart said it best — virtualization changes everything.

All props to the great people at Amazon and what they’re doing. However, I have to point out that enterprises currently have an allergic reaction to their offering, and it’s still questionable whether they’re making any money at it.

The real question is — who will become the IT infrastructure service provider for enterprises? Is it an existing entity (telco, outsourcer, etc.) or an entirely new beast (e.g. Terremark, Savvis)?

The telcos do have a structural advantage — if they choose to use it. And that’s the big question in my mind.

Thanks!

– Chuck

By: swardley

swardley — Wed, 27 May 2009 13:58:24 +0000

@monkchips: just read http://bit.ly/B8TPC - excellent post, thanks for the kind words and I’d buy one of those T-Shirts.

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By: William Vambenepe

William Vambenepe — Mon, 25 May 2009 06:25:15 +0000

Thanks for the pointer Andy, this is very interesting and new to me. Very relevant indeed, I’ll keep an eye on this work.

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By: ewkrause

ewkrause — Sat, 23 May 2009 17:04:05 +0000

Cloud computing: on structural advantages & lessons fm history. EMC world via @monkchips http://tinyurl.com/p5dbt5

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By: Andy Edmonds

Andy Edmonds — Sat, 23 May 2009 13:19:03 +0000

Hey William,
On the aspect of SLAs in the cloud, SLA@SOI are highly active in this area by creating a framework to allow the management and automation of SLAs in the cloud, including the automation of violation handling and compensation. It considers multi-level SLAs, their guarantee terms and multi-provider agreements. There’ll be a bunch of documents soon released on the site detailing the 1st year’s research so perhaps these will be of use for further defining process.

Andy

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By: Ric

Ric — Fri, 22 May 2009 16:54:42 +0000

I’d buy that t-shirt …

By: William Vambenepe’s blog » Blog Archive » Cloud APIs need to be complemented by Cloud processes

Fri, 22 May 2009 16:06:59 +0000

[...] 2009/5/22: More on telcos becoming Cloud providers from EMC’s Chuck Hollis, with a retort by James Governor. Just listing these as FYI but my main point in this post is not about telcos, [...]