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		<title>By: Linux and The Enterprise Cloud: A Canonical Gig</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2009/03/18/amazon-web-services-an-instance-of-weakness-as-strength/comment-page-1/#comment-544994</link>
		<dc:creator>Linux and The Enterprise Cloud: A Canonical Gig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] basic thesis is that Amazon Web Services remains the de facto standard for cloud computing. There are three kinds of economics you can’t compete with – Open Source, The Web, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cloud Watching for Enterprise Architects: Picks : elemental cloud computing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cloud Watching for Enterprise Architects: Picks : elemental cloud computing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] James Governor’s Monkchips » Amazon Web Services: an instance of weakness as strength [...]</description>
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		<title>By: James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; IBM in the Amazon Cloud: on pricing and billing innovation</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; IBM in the Amazon Cloud: on pricing and billing innovation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 15:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] so long ago I wrote a post extolling the simplicity and capability of Amazon’s Cloud offerings. But the real key is simple [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tecosystems &#187; Clouds over the Ivory Tower</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2009/03/18/amazon-web-services-an-instance-of-weakness-as-strength/comment-page-1/#comment-535233</link>
		<dc:creator>tecosystems &#187; Clouds over the Ivory Tower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 20:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] pattern similar to what we see today; James is exactly right, in my view, when he says that Amazon is the new VMware. In other words, we can expect pilot projects to be followed by discrete, tactical employment of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] pattern similar to what we see today; James is exactly right, in my view, when he says that Amazon is the new VMware. In other words, we can expect pilot projects to be followed by discrete, tactical employment of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; Corner Cases Can Kill Innovation 2: The Big Dogs Are Too Big</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2009/03/18/amazon-web-services-an-instance-of-weakness-as-strength/comment-page-1/#comment-534576</link>
		<dc:creator>James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; Corner Cases Can Kill Innovation 2: The Big Dogs Are Too Big</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] recently been arguing, Amazon is doing fantastically well for pretty much the opposite reason - it keeps things simple and delivers functionality for the many, rather than the few. Of course I am also the guy that said [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant post James, really getting to the crux of it.

Thoughts:

AWS is a market on a network, in Kenneth Bell&#039;s model the network is first the instance tier, and the Market is the service tier. They build the network, the market builds itself and reinforces the network.

Unfortunately when viewed through IP colored glasses the fabric/IP/service layer appears designed to corner the market hence Azure/App engine and other similar approaches = less attractive to market participants.

I think Amazon gotta a lot right, I also believe that Ubuntu could proliferate the model assuming Amazon don&#039;t throw them to many speed bumps ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant post James, really getting to the crux of it.</p>
<p>Thoughts:</p>
<p>AWS is a market on a network, in Kenneth Bell&#8217;s model the network is first the instance tier, and the Market is the service tier. They build the network, the market builds itself and reinforces the network.</p>
<p>Unfortunately when viewed through IP colored glasses the fabric/IP/service layer appears designed to corner the market hence Azure/App engine and other similar approaches = less attractive to market participants.</p>
<p>I think Amazon gotta a lot right, I also believe that Ubuntu could proliferate the model assuming Amazon don&#8217;t throw them to many speed bumps <img src='http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James Governor</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Governor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen O&#039;Grady - thanks! What can I say, I like your framework... 

Ric - you are such a sweetie. I told Alexis Richardson you had name checked CohesiveFT, but I see CEO Patrick Kerpan is already here.

Brandon - be a little careful. I understand the Azure downtime was due to an OS upgrade, right? I take your point though, and frankly, the SQL Data Services stuff was the most interesting to come out of PDC. I just haven&#039;t heard about people *using* it. Azure has lots of goodness, but until we see developers using the services we can&#039;t really get a view.

Matt Patterson and Pat Patterson - thanks a lot for the confirmations. For obvious reasons I greatly respect both your opinions.

Kenneth- what Brandon said. Great stuff.

Paul- nice to hear from you. Thanks for confirming the point with some real world thinking. 

Patrick Kerpan- we try! &quot;apps that aren’t Channel4 or Animoto. Just the tedious day in - day out stuff of IT.&quot; hah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen O&#8217;Grady &#8211; thanks! What can I say, I like your framework&#8230; </p>
<p>Ric &#8211; you are such a sweetie. I told Alexis Richardson you had name checked CohesiveFT, but I see CEO Patrick Kerpan is already here.</p>
<p>Brandon &#8211; be a little careful. I understand the Azure downtime was due to an OS upgrade, right? I take your point though, and frankly, the SQL Data Services stuff was the most interesting to come out of PDC. I just haven&#8217;t heard about people *using* it. Azure has lots of goodness, but until we see developers using the services we can&#8217;t really get a view.</p>
<p>Matt Patterson and Pat Patterson &#8211; thanks a lot for the confirmations. For obvious reasons I greatly respect both your opinions.</p>
<p>Kenneth- what Brandon said. Great stuff.</p>
<p>Paul- nice to hear from you. Thanks for confirming the point with some real world thinking. </p>
<p>Patrick Kerpan- we try! &#8220;apps that aren’t Channel4 or Animoto. Just the tedious day in &#8211; day out stuff of IT.&#8221; hah!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Kerpan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Kerpan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 generally on the points from the RedMonk gang.  And a real +1 for Matt Patterson&#039;s comment &quot;It does help solve a bunch of problems which are both hard and really boring.&quot;

This covers the realm of &quot;POA&quot; (plain old applications), that aren&#039;t Channel4 or Animoto.  Just the tedious day in - day out stuff of IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 generally on the points from the RedMonk gang.  And a real +1 for Matt Patterson&#8217;s comment &#8220;It does help solve a bunch of problems which are both hard and really boring.&#8221;</p>
<p>This covers the realm of &#8220;POA&#8221; (plain old applications), that aren&#8217;t Channel4 or Animoto.  Just the tedious day in &#8211; day out stuff of IT.</p>
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		<title>By: Cloud Computing Links March 21, 2009 at Cloud Curious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cloud Computing Links March 21, 2009 at Cloud Curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Labnotes &#187; Rounded Corners 231 — The power of good design</title>
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		<dc:creator>Labnotes &#187; Rounded Corners 231 — The power of good design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as a Service. Speaking of Amazon, AWS this time. The secret to its success may well be doing less: When you look at the market though its pretty clear the fabric players are suffering from [...]</description>
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