Comments on: Crossing The Chasm: Microsoft Cedes World Sim To Google? http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2009/02/03/crossing-the-chasm-microsoft-cedes-world-sim-to-google/ An industry analyst blog looking at software ecosystems and convergence Fri, 03 Feb 2012 10:35:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ajmunn http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2009/02/03/crossing-the-chasm-microsoft-cedes-world-sim-to-google/comment-page-1/#comment-535176 ajmunn Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:02:24 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/?p=1829#comment-535176 <p>@monkchips eg: US military already makes… use of gaming techn’ which could be leveraged in planning for…battles <a href="http://twurl.nl/lqt47d" rel="nofollow">http://twurl.nl/lqt47d</a></p> <p><i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://twitter.com/ajmunn/statuses/1657707484" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></i></p> @monkchips eg: US military already makes… use of gaming techn’ which could be leveraged in planning for…battles http://twurl.nl/lqt47d

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]]> By: cherry http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2009/02/03/crossing-the-chasm-microsoft-cedes-world-sim-to-google/comment-page-1/#comment-535177 cherry Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:39:09 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/?p=1829#comment-535177 <p>when i read articles such as these it really makes me wonder what the future holds. i actually think that when we look back we will laugh at how little we had progressed back then, in good ole 2009.</p> <p><i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://eightbar.co.uk/2009/02/04/mirror-mirror-on-the-wall/#comment-241684" rel="nofollow" title="“Mirror Mirror on the wall” (http://eightbar.co.uk/)">eightbar</a></i></p> when i read articles such as these it really makes me wonder what the future holds. i actually think that when we look back we will laugh at how little we had progressed back then, in good ole 2009.

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]]> By: Charlie Herbek http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2009/02/03/crossing-the-chasm-microsoft-cedes-world-sim-to-google/comment-page-1/#comment-535180 Charlie Herbek Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:29:59 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/?p=1829#comment-535180 <p>Consder the possibilities for this concept in a military command and control facility. Key people assembled quickly, all “seeing” real incomng data, open discussion and evaluation of the situation, crisis planning and real time, critical decisions made. Participants depart to execute those plans and decisions, meeting again virtually only as necessary. The virtual decsion center “appears and disappears” as necessary allowing leaders to remain with their units and execute the tasks at hand.</p> <p><i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://eightbar.co.uk/2009/02/04/mirror-mirror-on-the-wall/#comment-241677" rel="nofollow" title="“Mirror Mirror on the wall” (http://eightbar.co.uk/)">eightbar</a></i></p> Consder the possibilities for this concept in a military command and control facility. Key people assembled quickly, all “seeing” real incomng data, open discussion and evaluation of the situation, crisis planning and real time, critical decisions made. Participants depart to execute those plans and decisions, meeting again virtually only as necessary. The virtual decsion center “appears and disappears” as necessary allowing leaders to remain with their units and execute the tasks at hand.

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]]> By: epredator http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2009/02/03/crossing-the-chasm-microsoft-cedes-world-sim-to-google/comment-page-1/#comment-535179 epredator Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:54:48 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/?p=1829#comment-535179 <p>I expect that is where we are headed Wayne. Now we are getting to the point of having meaningful and persistent 3d models, instrumented from real information, and also able to generate real information back out again either visually with overlay/merges etc, physically with 3d printers/rapid fabrications or as simple publish/subscribe messages we have a completed circle. Real can got to virtual, virtual can be made real, as a suitably easy commercial scale. Not locked in an expensive research lab.<br /> That allows the research and product development to move to its next stages. Things like the seattle company building an imaging contact lense.<br /> Haptic feedback devices, emotiv headsets etc. all start to for the basis for solutions to problems and also to entertainment experiences.<br /> The phone can be a catalyst for this, as we have seen with the iphone a massive increase in the use of both multi touch and location based services, without anyone really noticing. It just gets on with it and does what it does.<br /> AR is not new of course, and the great research work and thought leadership that has gone on is now being put in the hands of the general public, so who knows where it will go next.<br /> We should get to a point where it really does not matter where you are, you can comfortably interact with whoever or whatever you need to in which ever way works, not tied to a qwerty keyboard, mouse and screen.<br /> (Like the previous post with the coca cola ad and avatars everywhere :) )</p> <p><i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://eightbar.co.uk/2009/02/04/mirror-mirror-on-the-wall/#comment-241675" rel="nofollow" title="“Mirror Mirror on the wall” (http://eightbar.co.uk/)">eightbar</a></i></p> I expect that is where we are headed Wayne. Now we are getting to the point of having meaningful and persistent 3d models, instrumented from real information, and also able to generate real information back out again either visually with overlay/merges etc, physically with 3d printers/rapid fabrications or as simple publish/subscribe messages we have a completed circle. Real can got to virtual, virtual can be made real, as a suitably easy commercial scale. Not locked in an expensive research lab.
That allows the research and product development to move to its next stages. Things like the seattle company building an imaging contact lense.
Haptic feedback devices, emotiv headsets etc. all start to for the basis for solutions to problems and also to entertainment experiences.
The phone can be a catalyst for this, as we have seen with the iphone a massive increase in the use of both multi touch and location based services, without anyone really noticing. It just gets on with it and does what it does.
AR is not new of course, and the great research work and thought leadership that has gone on is now being put in the hands of the general public, so who knows where it will go next.
We should get to a point where it really does not matter where you are, you can comfortably interact with whoever or whatever you need to in which ever way works, not tied to a qwerty keyboard, mouse and screen.
(Like the previous post with the coca cola ad and avatars everywhere :) )

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]]> By: WayneHoath http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2009/02/03/crossing-the-chasm-microsoft-cedes-world-sim-to-google/comment-page-1/#comment-535178 WayneHoath Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:50:16 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/?p=1829#comment-535178 <p>Will this lead a fully augmented reality, with avatars in the virtual world able to occupy the same space as someone within the real world. Perhaps the real person could visualise and interact with the virtual via an app on their phone and visa versa?</p> <p><i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://eightbar.co.uk/2009/02/04/mirror-mirror-on-the-wall/#comment-241674" rel="nofollow" title="“Mirror Mirror on the wall” (http://eightbar.co.uk/)">eightbar</a></i></p> Will this lead a fully augmented reality, with avatars in the virtual world able to occupy the same space as someone within the real world. Perhaps the real person could visualise and interact with the virtual via an app on their phone and visa versa?

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]]> By: Nico http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2009/02/03/crossing-the-chasm-microsoft-cedes-world-sim-to-google/comment-page-1/#comment-535181 Nico Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:22:50 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/?p=1829#comment-535181 <p>Are these games available for the XBox? If not, the question would be: are PC games as rentable as console ones?</p> <p><i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1202-farewell-to-ensemble-studios-and-thanks-for-age-of-empires.html/#comment-120292" rel="nofollow" title="“Farewell to Ensemble Studios and thanks for Age of Empires” (http://www.itwriting.com/blog/)">Tim Anderson's ITWriting</a></i></p> Are these games available for the XBox? If not, the question would be: are PC games as rentable as console ones?

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]]> By: eightbar » Blog Archive » Mirror Mirror on the wall http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2009/02/03/crossing-the-chasm-microsoft-cedes-world-sim-to-google/comment-page-1/#comment-517453 eightbar » Blog Archive » Mirror Mirror on the wall Wed, 04 Feb 2009 11:45:50 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/?p=1829#comment-517453 [...] at Redmonk, James Governor has written a very interesting piece on what has happened to the Microsoft ESP platform. Mirror [...] [...] at Redmonk, James Governor has written a very interesting piece on what has happened to the Microsoft ESP platform. Mirror [...]

]]> By: Balaji Sowmyanarayan http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2009/02/03/crossing-the-chasm-microsoft-cedes-world-sim-to-google/comment-page-1/#comment-517328 Balaji Sowmyanarayan Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:34:53 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/?p=1829#comment-517328 >You don’t cut investment at the end of the cycle, you surely cut it earlier than that. Investments that are not going to add to the bottomline ~2-3 year. Perhaps a small chunk of it could be open sourced, and kept alive and growing. As 3D Sim is very computing and data intensive, it is very strategic and lucrative for cloud. Opensourcing chunks of 3D sim codebase could enable a few startups to emerge out of the codebase. Acquiring some of them when the going is good and integrating with rest of the (non-opensourced strategic)chunk could as well be a way to recoup the investment. Is any of the biggies attempting opensourcing as a belt tightening strategy? >You don’t cut investment at the end of the cycle, you surely cut it earlier than that.
Investments that are not going to add to the bottomline ~2-3 year. Perhaps a small chunk of it could be open sourced, and kept alive and growing.
As 3D Sim is very computing and data intensive, it is very strategic and lucrative for cloud.
Opensourcing chunks of 3D sim codebase could enable a few startups to emerge out of the codebase. Acquiring some of them when the going is good and integrating with rest of the (non-opensourced strategic)chunk could as well be a way to recoup the investment.

Is any of the biggies attempting opensourcing as a belt tightening strategy?

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