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	<title>Comments on: For Mash Get Smash: IBM and situational applications in the Post-Brand era. What price a SaaS model?</title>
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		<title>By: James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; How I Was Wrong About The Fearsome Engine That is IBM, Or, Thoughts on Lotus, Software and Elephants</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; How I Was Wrong About The Fearsome Engine That is IBM, Or, Thoughts on Lotus, Software and Elephants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new mashup server tools rock, frankly. If the company can get people over the brand hump (Ed- wait, is this an Elephant or a camel?) it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] new mashup server tools rock, frankly. If the company can get people over the brand hump (Ed- wait, is this an Elephant or a camel?) it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; MindTouch&#8217;s Deki Release - The Mashup Marketing Delima</title>
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		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; MindTouch&#8217;s Deki Release - The Mashup Marketing Delima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What&#8217;s it for?  Good enough, lightweight apps, but don’t build a transactional app with it. This is for self- managed applications. If you think you need IT to manage it, you may need something else [such as a full blown Portal implementation]. &#8211;IBM&#8217;s Larry Bowden on IBM&#8217;s Mashup Center [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What&#8217;s it for?  Good enough, lightweight apps, but don’t build a transactional app with it. This is for self- managed applications. If you think you need IT to manage it, you may need something else [such as a full blown Portal implementation]. &#8211;IBM&#8217;s Larry Bowden on IBM&#8217;s Mashup Center [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dale lane &#187; Blog Archive &#187; HackDay - writing a Twitter dictionary</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/04/14/for-mash-get-smash-ibm-and-situational-applications-in-the-post-brand-era-what-price-a-saas-model/comment-page-1/#comment-358621</link>
		<dc:creator>dale lane &#187; Blog Archive &#187; HackDay - writing a Twitter dictionary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] uses could include to provide &#8216;disclosure&#8217;. For example, when I see posts by James Governor, I often see a few lines at the end such as: &#8230;IBM is a client. RedMonk runs Google Docs. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] uses could include to provide &#8216;disclosure&#8217;. For example, when I see posts by James Governor, I often see a few lines at the end such as: &#8230;IBM is a client. RedMonk runs Google Docs. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; &#8220;IBM news may signal enterprise mashup maturity&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/04/14/for-mash-get-smash-ibm-and-situational-applications-in-the-post-brand-era-what-price-a-saas-model/comment-page-1/#comment-357540</link>
		<dc:creator>James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; &#8220;IBM news may signal enterprise mashup maturity&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What he said. I talked to IBM mashup strategy here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What he said. I talked to IBM mashup strategy here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Divakar Jandhyala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Divakar Jandhyala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t see standard metrics for metering and billing in SaaS; We see it dependent on the application / domain with factors like:
- Whether it is a generic / white label kind of application or specific high value app. (example : voice over ip)

- If the market is interested in paying based on value or based on cost ; i.e. does the market think of value based pricing or cost+ based pricing for that app.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t see standard metrics for metering and billing in SaaS; We see it dependent on the application / domain with factors like:<br />
- Whether it is a generic / white label kind of application or specific high value app. (example : voice over ip)</p>
<p>- If the market is interested in paying based on value or based on cost ; i.e. does the market think of value based pricing or cost+ based pricing for that app.</p>
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		<title>By: (Not) Live from IMPACT - a blogger wrap &#187; Smart (Enough) Systems, the blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>(Not) Live from IMPACT - a blogger wrap &#187; Smart (Enough) Systems, the blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For Mash Get Smash: IBM and situational applications in the Post-Brand era. What price a SaaS model? (James Governer) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: /pd</title>
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		<dc:creator>/pd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;metering and billing&quot; - are they any metric available for this ?? comp between the clouds ??

so far, I am not seeing anything that we can comp and say hey this seems a better long term , healthy TCO kinda thingy..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;metering and billing&#8221; &#8211; are they any metric available for this ?? comp between the clouds ??</p>
<p>so far, I am not seeing anything that we can comp and say hey this seems a better long term , healthy TCO kinda thingy..</p>
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