Comments on: 15 Ways to Tell Its Not Cloud Computing http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/ An industry analyst blog looking at software ecosystems and convergence Sun, 21 Mar 2010 03:26:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Column 2 : IBM Cloud Strategy: Collaboration, Dev/Test Environments, and Virtual Desktops http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/comment-page-2/#comment-553336 Column 2 : IBM Cloud Strategy: Collaboration, Dev/Test Environments, and Virtual Desktops Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:05:56 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/#comment-553336 [...] maintaining cloud services. To be clear, there is a predominant focus on private clouds, or what some would not consider cloud at all: fast provisioning (after you install all the hardware and infrastructure software), but everything [...] [...] maintaining cloud services. To be clear, there is a predominant focus on private clouds, or what some would not consider cloud at all: fast provisioning (after you install all the hardware and infrastructure software), but everything [...]

]]> By: Julian Wraith | Warming up to Content Management in 2010 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/comment-page-2/#comment-548332 Julian Wraith | Warming up to Content Management in 2010 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:44:50 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/#comment-548332 [...] of the cloud and I think of Jon Marks as in this I agree. And I think the CMS vendors should better read this too before declaring cloud capability. For most large organizations I deal with, this is not an option [...] [...] of the cloud and I think of Jon Marks as in this I agree. And I think the CMS vendors should better read this too before declaring cloud capability. For most large organizations I deal with, this is not an option [...]

]]> By: It’s not a cloud « Comments After The EOF http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/comment-page-2/#comment-547683 It’s not a cloud « Comments After The EOF Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:25:01 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/#comment-547683 [...] It’s not a cloud If you don’t have a boiled-down cloud computing definition, James Governor has an excellent blog entry on “15 Ways to Tell It’s Not Cloud Computing,” at http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing. [...] [...] It’s not a cloud If you don’t have a boiled-down cloud computing definition, James Governor has an excellent blog entry on “15 Ways to Tell It’s Not Cloud Computing,” at http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing. [...]

]]> By: aegif blog http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/comment-page-2/#comment-547619 aegif blog Thu, 24 Dec 2009 05:32:04 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/#comment-547619 <strong>15 Ways to Tell Its Not Cloud Computing...</strong> 領域確保に10分以上かかるのであれば、、、　それはクラウドではない 10分未満で領域解放ができないのであれば、、、　それはクラウドではない... 15 Ways to Tell Its Not Cloud Computing…

領域確保に10分以上かかるのであれば、、、　それはクラウドではない 10分未満で領域解放ができないのであれば、、、　それはクラウドではない…

]]> By: Cole http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/comment-page-2/#comment-547509 Cole Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:03:51 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/#comment-547509 Wow. If you can’t buy it on your personal credit card… it is not a cloud (ever heard of a private cloud??) If they are trying to sell you hardware… its not a cloud. (again, private cloud requires hardware...I'd be happy to work with a hardware vendor to help build out a rock solid private cloud environment) If there is no API… its not a cloud. (so simple infrastructure as a service is not a cloud??) If you need to rearchitect your systems for it… Its not a cloud. (addressing I/O constraints to run optimally should not be taken into account???) If it takes more than ten minutes to provision… its not a cloud. (agreed) If you can’t deprovision in less than ten minutes… its not a cloud. (agreed) If you know where the machines are… its not a cloud. (lets not forget that technologies like flex address and flex connect, knowing is still a good thing) If there is a consultant in the room… its not a cloud. (what?!? people hire consultants for life coaching...if that's possible...a good architect to manage your data consolidation plans is probably money well spent) If you need to specify the number of machines you want upfront… its not a cloud. (agreed) If it only runs one operating system… its not a cloud. (So....Azure isn't cloud???) If you can’t connect to it from your own machine… its not a cloud. (agreed) If you need to install software to use it… its not a cloud. (that depends completely on what you are using it for...an all purpose cloud is not for everyone) If you own all the hardware… its not a cloud. (again....private clouds for the win) Wow.

If you can’t buy it on your personal credit card… it is not a cloud

(ever heard of a private cloud??)

If they are trying to sell you hardware… its not a cloud.

(again, private cloud requires hardware…I’d be happy to work with a hardware vendor to help build out a rock solid private cloud environment)

If there is no API… its not a cloud.

(so simple infrastructure as a service is not a cloud??)

If you need to rearchitect your systems for it… Its not a cloud.

(addressing I/O constraints to run optimally should not be taken into account???)

If it takes more than ten minutes to provision… its not a cloud.
(agreed)

If you can’t deprovision in less than ten minutes… its not a cloud.
(agreed)

If you know where the machines are… its not a cloud.

(lets not forget that technologies like flex address and flex connect, knowing is still a good thing)

If there is a consultant in the room… its not a cloud.

(what?!? people hire consultants for life coaching…if that’s possible…a good architect to manage your data consolidation plans is probably money well spent)

If you need to specify the number of machines you want upfront… its not a cloud.
(agreed)

If it only runs one operating system… its not a cloud.

(So….Azure isn’t cloud???)

If you can’t connect to it from your own machine… its not a cloud.
(agreed)

If you need to install software to use it… its not a cloud.

(that depends completely on what you are using it for…an all purpose cloud is not for everyone)

If you own all the hardware… its not a cloud.
(again….private clouds for the win)

]]> By: Weekend Reading http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/comment-page-2/#comment-547390 Weekend Reading Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:35:45 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/#comment-547390 [...] This is a bit older, but a friend just passed it along today (thx Ed!): “15 ways to Tell Its Not Cloud Computing“ [...] [...] This is a bit older, but a friend just passed it along today (thx Ed!): “15 ways to Tell Its Not Cloud Computing“ [...]

]]> By: Cloud Computing – SaaSBuzz.com | SaaSBuzz.com - The SaaS Review Community http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/comment-page-2/#comment-547332 Cloud Computing – SaaSBuzz.com | SaaSBuzz.com - The SaaS Review Community Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:49:58 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/#comment-547332 [...] the lighter side of things, marketers may want to take some time to read “15 Ways To Tell It Is Not Cloud Computing,” by James Governor of RedMonk, an influential analyst firm in the tech [...] [...] the lighter side of things, marketers may want to take some time to read “15 Ways To Tell It Is Not Cloud Computing,” by James Governor of RedMonk, an influential analyst firm in the tech [...]

]]> By: Matt Huncker http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/comment-page-2/#comment-547321 Matt Huncker Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:42:40 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/#comment-547321 Interesting point of view. These are some pretty high standards :) What does buying it on a credit card have to do with whether or not it's a cloud? "If you own all the hardware… its not a cloud." -- What about internal clouds? It's always cool to see how others view the "cloudy" landscape. Thanks for a fun read! Interesting point of view. These are some pretty high standards :)

What does buying it on a credit card have to do with whether or not it’s a cloud?

“If you own all the hardware… its not a cloud.” — What about internal clouds?

It’s always cool to see how others view the “cloudy” landscape. Thanks for a fun read!

]]> By: When’s a cloud not a cloud? http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/comment-page-2/#comment-547306 When’s a cloud not a cloud? Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:03:52 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/#comment-547306 [...] by Dennis Howlett on December 17, 2009 In my continuing series around ‘cloud’ I turned up a post from James Governor entitled: 15 Ways to Tell Its Not Cloud Computing. [...] [...] by Dennis Howlett on December 17, 2009 In my continuing series around ‘cloud’ I turned up a post from James Governor entitled: 15 Ways to Tell Its Not Cloud Computing. [...]

]]> By: EMC and the Cloud, Or Le Nuage et Le Petit Prince http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/comment-page-2/#comment-546375 EMC and the Cloud, Or Le Nuage et Le Petit Prince Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:48:16 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/03/13/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing/#comment-546375 [...] described as a cloud. I have to be mindful that the purity of my initial humourous/serious take:  15 Ways to Tell Its Not Cloud Computing has been left [...] [...] described as a cloud. I have to be mindful that the purity of my initial humourous/serious take:  15 Ways to Tell Its Not Cloud Computing has been left [...]

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