Comments on: On Open Source Analysis: Response to Armadgeddon http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/ An industry analyst blog looking at software ecosystems and convergence Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:06:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: James Governor’s Monkchips » Announcing New Line of Business, New Analyst: Greenmonk’s Tom Raftery http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-379438 James Governor’s Monkchips » Announcing New Line of Business, New Analyst: Greenmonk’s Tom Raftery Fri, 23 May 2008 12:25:16 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-379438 [...] there are clear similarities because be applying RedMonk’s open source analysis model to a new space, there are also some clear differences. RedMonk focuses on technology itself, while [...] [...] there are clear similarities because be applying RedMonk’s open source analysis model to a new space, there are also some clear differences. RedMonk focuses on technology itself, while [...]

]]> By: William Vambenepe’s blog » Blog Archive » If we are not at the table we are on the menu http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-322734 William Vambenepe’s blog » Blog Archive » If we are not at the table we are on the menu Thu, 06 Mar 2008 06:30:51 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-322734 [...] community calls “open source intelligence” and he wasn’t referring to the RedMonk model. [...] [...] community calls “open source intelligence” and he wasn’t referring to the RedMonk model. [...]

]]> By: Dom Pannell http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-320507 Dom Pannell Mon, 03 Mar 2008 08:49:19 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-320507 "I know that the likes of the IIAR [...] have recommended that we all go into one big M&A frenzy, and roll up all the UK independents to create a “credible” and “easy to work with challenger”." Er... what? That's news to me. Jimmy-me-lad, as a non-member, do you have info that I, as a member, do not? I echo the wise words of Mr Rossiter above. /Dom “I know that the likes of the IIAR [...] have recommended that we all go into one big M&A frenzy, and roll up all the UK independents to create a “credible” and “easy to work with challenger”.”

Er… what? That’s news to me. Jimmy-me-lad, as a non-member, do you have info that I, as a member, do not?

I echo the wise words of Mr Rossiter above.

/Dom

]]> By: esjewett.com http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-319719 esjewett.com Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:12:54 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-319719 <strong>Intellectual property value - speed is key...</strong> Knowledge isn't worth anything if you don't use it. Similarly, intellectual property, the crystalized product of knowledge, isn't worth anything if it isn't consumed. Compounding this is the fact that knowledge products age fast. Screencams and ... Intellectual property value - speed is key…

Knowledge isn’t worth anything if you don’t use it. Similarly, intellectual property, the crystalized product of knowledge, isn’t worth anything if it isn’t consumed. Compounding this is the fact that knowledge products age fast. Screencams and …

]]> By: tecosystems » links for 2008-03-01 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-318907 tecosystems » links for 2008-03-01 Sat, 01 Mar 2008 05:19:43 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-318907 [...] James Governor’s Monkchips » On Open Source Analysis: Response to Armadgeddon great piece from James on our views of open source analysis. i may pile on re: Stiennon’s comments, but this is a great read (tags: jamesgovernor redmonk opensource analysis armadgeddon) [...] [...] James Governor’s Monkchips » On Open Source Analysis: Response to Armadgeddon great piece from James on our views of open source analysis. i may pile on re: Stiennon’s comments, but this is a great read (tags: jamesgovernor redmonk opensource analysis armadgeddon) [...]

]]> By: Chris http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-318661 Chris Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:30:42 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-318661 To be honest, I really don't care that much about the philosophy of industry analysis. What I do care about is things like Workday acquiring Cape Clear -- which I found out about in my paper copy of InformationWeek of all places. I was traveling when the news broke; I thought that checking monkchips would keep me abreast of important next-gen enterprise app/tool news more effectively than slogging through a week of news chaff from the regular suspects. Not so sure now . . . still a fan, but now you have my feedback. Cheers. To be honest, I really don’t care that much about the philosophy of industry analysis.

What I do care about is things like Workday acquiring Cape Clear — which I found out about in my paper copy of InformationWeek of all places. I was traveling when the news broke; I thought that checking monkchips would keep me abreast of important next-gen enterprise app/tool news more effectively than slogging through a week of news chaff from the regular suspects. Not so sure now . . . still a fan, but now you have my feedback. Cheers.

]]> By: Marcus Langer http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-318451 Marcus Langer Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:43:55 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-318451 James, this is cool. Were you replying to something by Armageddon? I could not see anything on the home page you linked to. Marcus. James, this is cool. Were you replying to something by Armageddon? I could not see anything on the home page you linked to.

Marcus.

]]> By: Sandy Kemsley http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-318364 Sandy Kemsley Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:16:59 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-318364 James, great post. As an independent who splits time between consulting for end-customer organizations and as an analyst to vendors, I understand the balance that you need to strike, especially when there is any question about a vendor client when you're working with an end-customer client. Like you guys, I find the best path is to openly declare my vendor client list, which tends to support my argument that I can be impartial. As for the discussion on open source analysis, I'm fully in support of this. I write a lot of things on my blog that I could likely charge for in some form and am happy to share in a public forum instead, and like the idea of having other contributors enrich those themes. James, great post. As an independent who splits time between consulting for end-customer organizations and as an analyst to vendors, I understand the balance that you need to strike, especially when there is any question about a vendor client when you’re working with an end-customer client. Like you guys, I find the best path is to openly declare my vendor client list, which tends to support my argument that I can be impartial.

As for the discussion on open source analysis, I’m fully in support of this. I write a lot of things on my blog that I could likely charge for in some form and am happy to share in a public forum instead, and like the idea of having other contributors enrich those themes.

]]> By: David Rossiter http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-318335 David Rossiter Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:19:50 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/29/thoughts-on-open-source-analysis-response-to-armadgeddon/#comment-318335 Hi James As a board member of the IIAR, I just want to let you know that pushing for consolidation in the analyst world isn't an official position of ours. Some individual members may believe that it's the right way to go but it's not something we advocate as an organisation. Personally, I know the value that smaller firms bring. From conversations with our members, I know that most of them also see tremendous value in the smaller firms. The analyst world would be a lot poorer if it was just the mega-players. Cheers, David Hi James

As a board member of the IIAR, I just want to let you know that pushing for consolidation in the analyst world isn’t an official position of ours. Some individual members may believe that it’s the right way to go but it’s not something we advocate as an organisation.

Personally, I know the value that smaller firms bring. From conversations with our members, I know that most of them also see tremendous value in the smaller firms. The analyst world would be a lot poorer if it was just the mega-players.

Cheers, David

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