Comments on: The World Beyond the LAN: Trust and Human Resources http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/ An industry analyst blog looking at software ecosystems and convergence Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:11:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: James Governor’s Monkchips http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-190920 James Governor’s Monkchips Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:42:11 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-190920 [...] Comments Stephen Collins on The Notes application, Do you Faceback yet? James Dellow on The World Beyond the LAN: Trust and Human ResourcesGreat conversation: Dave Snowden and Jon Husband at Sims Learning Connections on The World Beyond [...] [...] Comments Stephen Collins on The Notes application, Do you Faceback yet? James Dellow on The World Beyond the LAN: Trust and Human ResourcesGreat conversation: Dave Snowden and Jon Husband at Sims Learning Connections on The World Beyond [...]

]]> By: James Dellow http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-189532 James Dellow Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:45:15 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-189532 G'Day James. Glad to see you found some interesting stuff over on my ChiefTech blog. Just reading the title of your post also makes me think about this in yet another way - the LAN is shrinking http://chieftech.blogspot.com/2007/10/gartner-top-10-what-about-liquid.html, the Internet and social networking is going mobile http://chieftech.blogspot.com/2007/10/getting-introduced-to-bluepulse.html ... so what's the point in blocking it? Generation Web 2.0 aren't coming to work for the Internet connection. All your comments about trust, etc still stand. G’Day James. Glad to see you found some interesting stuff over on my ChiefTech blog. Just reading the title of your post also makes me think about this in yet another way - the LAN is shrinking http://chieftech.blogspot.com/2007/10/gartner-top-10-what-about-liquid.html, the Internet and social networking is going mobile http://chieftech.blogspot.com/2007/10/getting-introduced-to-bluepulse.html … so what’s the point in blocking it? Generation Web 2.0 aren’t coming to work for the Internet connection. All your comments about trust, etc still stand.

]]> By: Great conversation: Dave Snowden and Jon Husband at Sims Learning Connections http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-187776 Great conversation: Dave Snowden and Jon Husband at Sims Learning Connections Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:07:14 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-187776 [...] last two bullets connect nicely with another of my favorite links this week: James Governor’s The World Beyond the LAN: Trust and Human Resources where he writes: Web 2.0, Enterprise 2.0 and so on are not matters for IT professionals to decide, [...] [...] last two bullets connect nicely with another of my favorite links this week: James Governor’s The World Beyond the LAN: Trust and Human Resources where he writes: Web 2.0, Enterprise 2.0 and so on are not matters for IT professionals to decide, [...]

]]> By: Sean’s Mental Walkabout » Blog Archive » links for 2007-10-27 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-186861 Sean’s Mental Walkabout » Blog Archive » links for 2007-10-27 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 04:26:26 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-186861 [...] James Governor’s Monkchips » The World Beyond the LAN: Trust and Human Resources Extensive control in corp environment doesn’t work any more. (tags: work generationgap) [...] [...] James Governor’s Monkchips » The World Beyond the LAN: Trust and Human Resources Extensive control in corp environment doesn’t work any more. (tags: work generationgap) [...]

]]> By: Bieber Labs » links for 2007-10-27 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-186785 Bieber Labs » links for 2007-10-27 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 03:17:39 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-186785 [...] James Governor’s Monkchips » The World Beyond the LAN: Trust and Human Resources Excellent article on trust and the enterprise. “I suspect particularly the generation that went to college in the last ten years or so, will want to work for employers that trust them, not those that try and control them.” (tags: trust enterprise security forwork) [...] [...] James Governor’s Monkchips » The World Beyond the LAN: Trust and Human Resources Excellent article on trust and the enterprise. “I suspect particularly the generation that went to college in the last ten years or so, will want to work for employers that trust them, not those that try and control them.” (tags: trust enterprise security forwork) [...]

]]> By: jgovernor http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-186007 jgovernor Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:52:18 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-186007 Jason - right on right on right on. What would the world look like if companies merged IT and HR - and then gave them a seat at the board. more productive I suspect. Imagine the culture issues. heh. Zoli - I am sure Highmark has cameras installed in the bathrooms. Sean- I concur in some respects. But you don't give 12 year olds the credit they deserve. they get a surprising amount done. i know i did. that was the only time in my life i was ever really a hacx0r. Michelle- I can see that being an issue, but not everyone in India is thinking the same way obviously. See this poster from Microsoft India http://www.gapingvoid.com/0710bluemonsterindia.jpg Jason - right on right on right on. What would the world look like if companies merged IT and HR - and then gave them a seat at the board. more productive I suspect. Imagine the culture issues. heh.

Zoli - I am sure Highmark has cameras installed in the bathrooms.

Sean- I concur in some respects. But you don’t give 12 year olds the credit they deserve. they get a surprising amount done. i know i did. that was the only time in my life i was ever really a hacx0r.

Michelle- I can see that being an issue, but not everyone in India is thinking the same way obviously. See this poster from Microsoft India
http://www.gapingvoid.com/0710bluemonsterindia.jpg

]]> By: Michelle Malay Carte http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-185996 Michelle Malay Carte Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:16:27 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-185996 James said: "I suspect particularly the generation that went to college in the last ten years or so, will want to work for employers that trust them, not those that try and control them." How about those organizations that view employees as babies who need to be disciplined and taken care of? Apparently in India, this viewpoint is a "critical success factor" for HR professionals! Don't believe it? http://www.missionmindedmanagement.com/employees-are-babies-throwing-tantrums-says-hr-their-benevolent-caretaker Michelle Malay Carter James said: “I suspect particularly the generation that went to college in the last ten years or so, will want to work for employers that trust them, not those that try and control them.”

How about those organizations that view employees as babies who need to be disciplined and taken care of? Apparently in India, this viewpoint is a “critical success factor” for HR professionals!

Don’t believe it? http://www.missionmindedmanagement.com/employees-are-babies-throwing-tantrums-says-hr-their-benevolent-caretaker

Michelle Malay Carter

]]> By: Sean Dague http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-185973 Sean Dague Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:48:01 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-185973 Really great post. Trust spurs productivity, and is a 2 way street. An organization the uses technology to lock down and treat their employees as if they were 12 year olds is only going to get 12 year old levels of productivity out of them. Really great post. Trust spurs productivity, and is a 2 way street. An organization the uses technology to lock down and treat their employees as if they were 12 year olds is only going to get 12 year old levels of productivity out of them.

]]> By: Zoli Erdos http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-185935 Zoli Erdos Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:53:55 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-185935 Hm.. I wonder if Highmark has a dresscode .. and regulates how often employees get a bio-break :-) Hm.. I wonder if Highmark has a dresscode .. and regulates how often employees get a bio-break :-)

]]> By: Jason Corsello http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-185914 Jason Corsello Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:27:52 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/10/26/the-world-beyond-the-lan-trust-and-human-resources/#comment-185914 Great post. We are assuming two things though....1) HR knows its people, knows its business, and knows what makes them productive and successful (which most clearly don't) and 2) IT today is not based on risk mitigation (which clearly it is today). The fact of the matter is HR as with many other functional areas with an organization still relies on IT to really tell them what's in bounds and what's out of bounds. I met with an head of HR recently that saw the value in Facebook for things such as recruiting. Unfortunately her recruiters could not access Facebook because the IT organization blocked it. I would not assume our functionality leaders know the power of Web 2.0 etc today nor, maybe, will they ever! Great post. We are assuming two things though….1) HR knows its people, knows its business, and knows what makes them productive and successful (which most clearly don’t) and 2) IT today is not based on risk mitigation (which clearly it is today). The fact of the matter is HR as with many other functional areas with an organization still relies on IT to really tell them what’s in bounds and what’s out of bounds. I met with an head of HR recently that saw the value in Facebook for things such as recruiting. Unfortunately her recruiters could not access Facebook because the IT organization blocked it.

I would not assume our functionality leaders know the power of Web 2.0 etc today nor, maybe, will they ever!

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