Comments on: BusinessByDesign: iPhone for ERP, Or AS/400 for 21stC? http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/ An industry analyst blog looking at software ecosystems and convergence Fri, 03 Feb 2012 10:35:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: James Governor http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-536609 James Governor Thu, 14 May 2009 16:54:01 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/#comment-536609 you dont see the as400 connection in a totally integrated system with low to no people overheads, that "just runs" applications? you dont see the as400 connection in a totally integrated system with low to no people overheads, that “just runs” applications?

]]> By: as400 programmer http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-536582 as400 programmer Thu, 14 May 2009 07:23:27 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/#comment-536582 dont see the as400 connection here? is it even mentioned? dont see the as400 connection here? is it even mentioned?

]]> By: Irregular Enterprise mobile edition http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-366495 Irregular Enterprise mobile edition Wed, 07 May 2008 14:42:37 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/#comment-366495 [...] - but which is very much in SAP’s mind today. Finally, there’s the UI question which James Governor and myself flagged up as in need of urgent attention. None of these issues is trivial and to its [...] [...] – but which is very much in SAP’s mind today. Finally, there’s the UI question which James Governor and myself flagged up as in need of urgent attention. None of these issues is trivial and to its [...]

]]> By: Pimping an appearance on a virtual world | AccMan http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-339590 Pimping an appearance on a virtual world | AccMan Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:41:41 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/#comment-339590 [...] to be then we’ll still call SAP out in double quick time. When BBD was launched in New York, some of us were appalled at the apparent missed opportunity to create a really slick interface. We said so on our blogs. [...] [...] to be then we’ll still call SAP out in double quick time. When BBD was launched in New York, some of us were appalled at the apparent missed opportunity to create a really slick interface. We said so on our blogs. [...]

]]> By: Irregular Enterprise mobile edition http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-321471 Irregular Enterprise mobile edition Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:07:04 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/#comment-321471 [...] Ugly. Yet this is not uncommon. Even now (or at least when I last saw it), SAP’s latest Business ByDesign is hardly a model of user friendliness. Can ‘we’ do [...] [...] Ugly. Yet this is not uncommon. Even now (or at least when I last saw it), SAP’s latest Business ByDesign is hardly a model of user friendliness. Can ‘we’ do [...]

]]> By: jgovernor http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-208558 jgovernor Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:34:40 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/#comment-208558 who will sell it is a key question. SAP needs to build a whole new channel model for this one who will sell it is a key question. SAP needs to build a whole new channel model for this one

]]> By: Jon Reed http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-197691 Jon Reed Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:39:05 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/#comment-197691 One thing that I have been wondering about since SAP's BBD announcement is: who is going to sell it? SAP tends to focus on selling the larger suites and, for example, has a structured reselling program for All-in-One, the non-hosted SAP solution for the midmarket. I talked to a couple of All-in-One resellers, not interested in going on the record, who told me that they were not the least bit interested in getting involved in selling a hosted solution. They wanted to focus on selling All-in-One, which provides a greater promise of consulting revenues than a hosted model, in their view. In the U.S., SAP seems to be doing much more mass marketing to small businesses. You see ads on football games now, and I have had friends who didn't understand what I did in SAP for years now telling me, "I saw SAP on TV!" To me, this implies that SAP is intending to sell BBD directly, or at least develop a sales channel that is less dependent on resellers who need consulting income to make it worth their while. Perhaps others have an inside perspective on this, but I was struck by the reluctance of the All-in-One resellers I talked to to embrace BBD. One thing that I have been wondering about since SAP’s BBD announcement is: who is going to sell it? SAP tends to focus on selling the larger suites and, for example, has a structured reselling program for All-in-One, the non-hosted SAP solution for the midmarket.

I talked to a couple of All-in-One resellers, not interested in going on the record, who told me that they were not the least bit interested in getting involved in selling a hosted solution. They wanted to focus on selling All-in-One, which provides a greater promise of consulting revenues than a hosted model, in their view.

In the U.S., SAP seems to be doing much more mass marketing to small businesses. You see ads on football games now, and I have had friends who didn’t understand what I did in SAP for years now telling me, “I saw SAP on TV!”

To me, this implies that SAP is intending to sell BBD directly, or at least develop a sales channel that is less dependent on resellers who need consulting income to make it worth their while.

Perhaps others have an inside perspective on this, but I was struck by the reluctance of the All-in-One resellers I talked to to embrace BBD.

]]> By: People Over Process » SAP TechEd ‘07 - CommunityDay, Code Hunger http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-167658 People Over Process » SAP TechEd ‘07 - CommunityDay, Code Hunger Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:53:25 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/#comment-167658 [...] James Governor: “I think you’ll be surprised by the success of [ByDesign].” [...] [...] James Governor: “I think you’ll be surprised by the success of [ByDesign].” [...]

]]> By: Irregular Enterprise mobile edition http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-167236 Irregular Enterprise mobile edition Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:44:42 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/#comment-167236 [...] boring interface and lack of AJAX. For several of us, this was an opportunity missed. At the time, James Governor said: The UI represents a missed opportunity, in my opinion and shows how SAP’s Not Invented Here [...] [...] boring interface and lack of AJAX. For several of us, this was an opportunity missed. At the time, James Governor said: The UI represents a missed opportunity, in my opinion and shows how SAP’s Not Invented Here [...]

]]> By: SAP goes SaaS for the midmarket — SMB Connection http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-163815 SAP goes SaaS for the midmarket — SMB Connection Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:15:45 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/09/19/sap-businessbydesign-iphone-for-erp-or-an-as400-for-the-21st-century/#comment-163815 [...] an excellent blog review of Business ByDesign, SAP is one of those huge enterprise software vendors famous for complexity that is just plain poison for small and medium-sized companies. However, SAP likes to tell us that [...] [...] an excellent blog review of Business ByDesign, SAP is one of those huge enterprise software vendors famous for complexity that is just plain poison for small and medium-sized companies. However, SAP likes to tell us that [...]

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