Comments on: What SOA needs to learn from Ruby On Rails http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/08/03/what-soa-needs-to-learn-from-ruby-on-rails/ An industry analyst blog looking at software ecosystems and convergence Fri, 03 Feb 2012 10:35:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Links: September 3, 2007 « SmoothSpan Blog http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/08/03/what-soa-needs-to-learn-from-ruby-on-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-151957 Links: September 3, 2007 « SmoothSpan Blog Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:52:46 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/08/03/what-soa-needs-to-learn-from-ruby-on-rails/#comment-151957 [...] What SOA Needs to Learn from Ruby On Rails:  Convetion over Configuration.  Many other things would benefit from these observations! [...] [...] What SOA Needs to Learn from Ruby On Rails:  Convetion over Configuration.  Many other things would benefit from these observations! [...]

]]> By: Scott Mark http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/08/03/what-soa-needs-to-learn-from-ruby-on-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-134520 Scott Mark Tue, 07 Aug 2007 16:13:29 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/08/03/what-soa-needs-to-learn-from-ruby-on-rails/#comment-134520 I think Grails is the last hope for seriously efficient Java development. Java is getting better, but just have one of your Java developers try out RoR's generation tools, or take advantage of scaffolding, or the power of method_missing().... they are huge eye openers to how productive you can be. I think Grails is the last hope for seriously efficient Java development. Java is getting better, but just have one of your Java developers try out RoR’s generation tools, or take advantage of scaffolding, or the power of method_missing()…. they are huge eye openers to how productive you can be.

]]> By: Kubuntu http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/08/03/what-soa-needs-to-learn-from-ruby-on-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-132651 Kubuntu Sat, 04 Aug 2007 21:55:40 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/08/03/what-soa-needs-to-learn-from-ruby-on-rails/#comment-132651 > The Java world is finally getting it, with Spring bringing convention over configuration to JEE’s complex API set. Are you serious? Spring only got annotations in its most recent release! Loads of XML config files if you don't use annotations. JEE isn't J2EE. > The Java world is finally getting it, with Spring bringing convention over configuration to JEE’s complex API set.

Are you serious? Spring only got annotations in its most recent release! Loads of XML config files if you don’t use annotations. JEE isn’t J2EE.

]]> By: More on complexity, configurability « Adventures in systems land http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/08/03/what-soa-needs-to-learn-from-ruby-on-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-132010 More on complexity, configurability « Adventures in systems land Sat, 04 Aug 2007 02:49:37 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/08/03/what-soa-needs-to-learn-from-ruby-on-rails/#comment-132010 [...] More on complexity, configurability Published August 3rd, 2007 entrypoints , Systems Director , systemp , HMC , Ruby , SOA , complexity One of my first posts in this blog, was on the subject of complexity. James Governor of Redmonk weighed in today with a trackback post called “What SOA needs to learn from Ruby On Rails“. [...] [...] More on complexity, configurability Published August 3rd, 2007 entrypoints , Systems Director , systemp , HMC , Ruby , SOA , complexity One of my first posts in this blog, was on the subject of complexity. James Governor of Redmonk weighed in today with a trackback post called “What SOA needs to learn from Ruby On Rails“. [...]

]]> By: People Over Process » SOA and the Simple-heads http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/08/03/what-soa-needs-to-learn-from-ruby-on-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-131848 People Over Process » SOA and the Simple-heads Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:19:33 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/08/03/what-soa-needs-to-learn-from-ruby-on-rails/#comment-131848 [...] As Al puts in a comment: [...] [...] As Al puts in a comment: [...]

]]> By: Al http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/08/03/what-soa-needs-to-learn-from-ruby-on-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-131698 Al Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:21:25 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/08/03/what-soa-needs-to-learn-from-ruby-on-rails/#comment-131698 This may be difficult: ROR stands for Ruby on Rails SOA stands for Service Orientated Architecture Service is good Oriented is "Something like" fluff language Architecture is building for every possibility definitely not the required 80/20 rule So how about we just replace SOA with SOR, Service On Rest loose the WS* hairball and UDDI dinosuar , make everything a service based resource - RESTFarian style. The moment you can just hyperlink to everything is when clarity and loosely coupled common sense kicks in. You will also need some slick agile coding on top to act as the mortar coupling it together - Groovy/Grails, Ruby/Rails, or even Python. You will of course also need some real rockstars to make you tech dream come true, but choosing their favorite tools (as suggested above) could provide them with an incentive to play in your digital playground. regards Al This may be difficult:

ROR stands for Ruby on Rails
SOA stands for Service Orientated Architecture

Service is good
Oriented is “Something like” fluff language
Architecture is building for every possibility definitely not the required 80/20 rule

So how about we just replace SOA with SOR, Service On Rest loose the WS* hairball and UDDI dinosuar , make everything a service based resource – RESTFarian style. The moment you can just hyperlink to everything is when clarity and loosely coupled common sense kicks in.

You will also need some slick agile coding on top to act as the mortar coupling it together – Groovy/Grails, Ruby/Rails, or even Python. You will of course also need some real rockstars to make you tech dream come true, but choosing their favorite tools (as suggested above) could provide them with an incentive to play in your digital playground.

regards
Al

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