Comments on: Is MySQL kicking Big Three Ass Or Not? http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/05/02/is-mysql-kicking-big-three-ass-or-not/ An industry analyst blog looking at software ecosystems and convergence Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:22:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: 451 CAOS Theory » 451 CAOS Links - 2007.05.02 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/05/02/is-mysql-kicking-big-three-ass-or-not/#comment-371273 451 CAOS Theory » 451 CAOS Links - 2007.05.02 Tue, 13 May 2008 13:48:37 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/05/02/is-mysql-kicking-big-three-ass-or-not/#comment-371273 [...] Is MySQL kicking Big Three Ass Or Not?, RedMonk - Monkchips, James Governor (Blog) [...] [...] Is MySQL kicking Big Three Ass Or Not?, RedMonk - Monkchips, James Governor (Blog) [...]

]]> By: gigiduru http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/05/02/is-mysql-kicking-big-three-ass-or-not/#comment-236647 gigiduru Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:58:10 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/05/02/is-mysql-kicking-big-three-ass-or-not/#comment-236647 These guys are smoking to much weed!!! Whoever is spitting out words like "mysql","database", "enterprise" in the same sentence, needs to be seen by a psychiatrist. Don't forget that R from RDBMS, attribute assigned to Oracle/SQL Server/DB2 and alike, is coming, not from "Relational" but from "Real". You can count the number of whiz kiddies in this world by counting the number of mysql instances. Peace! These guys are smoking to much weed!!!

Whoever is spitting out words like “mysql”,”database”, “enterprise” in the same sentence, needs to be seen by a psychiatrist.
Don’t forget that R from RDBMS, attribute assigned to Oracle/SQL Server/DB2 and alike, is coming, not from “Relational” but from “Real”.
You can count the number of whiz kiddies in this world by counting the number of mysql instances.
Peace!

]]> By: James Governor’s Monkchips » ABC, as Easy as 1,2,3: RedMonk Rankings in Analyst Top 50 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/05/02/is-mysql-kicking-big-three-ass-or-not/#comment-102222 James Governor’s Monkchips » ABC, as Easy as 1,2,3: RedMonk Rankings in Analyst Top 50 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:13:02 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/05/02/is-mysql-kicking-big-three-ass-or-not/#comment-102222 [...] I know there are many skeptics out there about on the question whether blogging has a role in research, and whether firms like RedMonk have any industry influence. That is fair. But it seems to me that just as we should not confuse a Technorati ranking with industry influence, neither should we imagine that an utterly reductionist focus on RFP involvement tells us everything about influence either. A myopic focus on capital expenditure and new product purchase relies on a too-blunt instrument in the age of open source and free services. If businesses adopt Google Apps, for example, in their free form, will that be ignored by analyst firms used to comparing Microsoft Exchange and Lotus Notes adoption, say? As I have argued before tracking MySQL adoption is not the same as tracking MySQL revenues. [...] [...] I know there are many skeptics out there about on the question whether blogging has a role in research, and whether firms like RedMonk have any industry influence. That is fair. But it seems to me that just as we should not confuse a Technorati ranking with industry influence, neither should we imagine that an utterly reductionist focus on RFP involvement tells us everything about influence either. A myopic focus on capital expenditure and new product purchase relies on a too-blunt instrument in the age of open source and free services. If businesses adopt Google Apps, for example, in their free form, will that be ignored by analyst firms used to comparing Microsoft Exchange and Lotus Notes adoption, say? As I have argued before tracking MySQL adoption is not the same as tracking MySQL revenues. [...]

]]> By: Dallas Hockley http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/05/02/is-mysql-kicking-big-three-ass-or-not/#comment-74349 Dallas Hockley Sun, 06 May 2007 21:05:49 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/05/02/is-mysql-kicking-big-three-ass-or-not/#comment-74349 Is there a way to track the service contract revenue for MySQL commercial and EnterpriseDB? I ask about both, rather than just MySQL as EnterpriseDB has an Oracle compatability capability to explicitly target the Oracle installed base. These are two different databases targetted at two very different market segments (at least for now). Even the contracts would give some indicator. Is there a way to track the service contract revenue for MySQL commercial and EnterpriseDB? I ask about both, rather than just MySQL as EnterpriseDB has an Oracle compatability capability to explicitly target the Oracle installed base. These are two different databases targetted at two very different market segments (at least for now). Even the contracts would give some indicator.

]]> By: Anshu Sharma http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/05/02/is-mysql-kicking-big-three-ass-or-not/#comment-71716 Anshu Sharma Thu, 03 May 2007 01:48:31 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/05/02/is-mysql-kicking-big-three-ass-or-not/#comment-71716 Perhaps IBM is pushing MySQL because they are loosing out to Oracle in non-mainframe segments. Of course, you could be right and they might be looking to get 10% of that 3% (or whatever revenue number IDC assigns to MySQL). Another thought- mySQL is expanding the use of database in many cases where none existed creating the grounds for more sophisticated databases to be adopted when the database gets big enough. Perhaps IBM is pushing MySQL because they are loosing out to Oracle in non-mainframe segments. Of course, you could be right and they might be looking to get 10% of that 3% (or whatever revenue number IDC assigns to MySQL). Another thought- mySQL is expanding the use of database in many cases where none existed creating the grounds for more sophisticated databases to be adopted when the database gets big enough.

]]> By: Chris Dalby http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/05/02/is-mysql-kicking-big-three-ass-or-not/#comment-71670 Chris Dalby Wed, 02 May 2007 23:38:56 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/05/02/is-mysql-kicking-big-three-ass-or-not/#comment-71670 I am with you on this one James. As a staunch Microsoft supporter, I have been a begrudging convert to non .NET and non SQL server. Now I have no choice due to the fantstic amunt of integration services around. Covert to MySql or DIE. I am with you on this one James. As a staunch Microsoft supporter, I have been a begrudging convert to non .NET and non SQL server. Now I have no choice due to the fantstic amunt of integration services around. Covert to MySql or DIE.

]]> By: Mike Champion http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/05/02/is-mysql-kicking-big-three-ass-or-not/#comment-71580 Mike Champion Wed, 02 May 2007 17:57:18 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/05/02/is-mysql-kicking-big-three-ass-or-not/#comment-71580 It sounds like mySQL is successfully "competing with non-consumption" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disruptive_technology not "kicking big 3 ass", whatever the usage statistics might show if they existed. The more interesting question is whether mySQL will increase its benefits faster than the Big 3 lower their total operating cost (e.g., by automating administration, improving programmability, etc.) It sounds like mySQL is successfully “competing with non-consumption” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disruptive_technology not “kicking big 3 ass”, whatever the usage statistics might show if they existed. The more interesting question is whether mySQL will increase its benefits faster than the Big 3 lower their total operating cost (e.g., by automating administration, improving programmability, etc.)

]]> By: Mike Gunderloy http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/05/02/is-mysql-kicking-big-three-ass-or-not/#comment-71570 Mike Gunderloy Wed, 02 May 2007 17:03:03 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/05/02/is-mysql-kicking-big-three-ass-or-not/#comment-71570 Isn't MySQL significant in somewhat the same way that Apple laptops are? No one claims that Apple is grabbing any significant share of corporate desktop computing (yet?) but if you look at what the software development thought leaders are using, the MacBook share is suddenly much more significant. Similarly, I doubt that the big 3 are going to get pushed out of the data center in the short term, but if you look at what's getting used at the cutting edge, MySQL and Sqlite and PostgreSQL are the thought leaders. Innovation comes disproportionately from an unfettered minority of those who can pick their own tools, rather than from the safe bets of the previous generation - usually. Isn’t MySQL significant in somewhat the same way that Apple laptops are? No one claims that Apple is grabbing any significant share of corporate desktop computing (yet?) but if you look at what the software development thought leaders are using, the MacBook share is suddenly much more significant. Similarly, I doubt that the big 3 are going to get pushed out of the data center in the short term, but if you look at what’s getting used at the cutting edge, MySQL and Sqlite and PostgreSQL are the thought leaders.

Innovation comes disproportionately from an unfettered minority of those who can pick their own tools, rather than from the safe bets of the previous generation - usually.

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