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	<title>Comments on: Where are the non-Adobe women at Engage?</title>
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		<title>By: Anne 2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Working with the Architecture of the Space</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne 2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Working with the Architecture of the Space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There were slights throughout the day: a mention of &#8220;granny mode&#8221; for a beginner&#8217;s mode of some Adobe software, a comment from some developer along the lines of &#8220;our users aren&#8217;t technically astute, they&#8217;re mature mothers,&#8221; and an example of a cell phone graphic for girls that was pink with cutesy animals. Stereotypes of females attended in greater numbers than actual females, if you don&#8217;t include the Adobe women who were there. No wonder these stereotypes prevail. If you work in an environment with actual women you might learn that some are technically oriented and some less so, some like pink and some do not, some are airbrushed and perfect like a Victoria&#8217;s Secret model&#8230; but most are not. I am not airbrushed and perfect, as anyone who has met me online or in person knows. But I am real in a way that those Victoria&#8217;s Secret models and clueless grannies and imagined versions of mature mothers are not. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There were slights throughout the day: a mention of &#8220;granny mode&#8221; for a beginner&#8217;s mode of some Adobe software, a comment from some developer along the lines of &#8220;our users aren&#8217;t technically astute, they&#8217;re mature mothers,&#8221; and an example of a cell phone graphic for girls that was pink with cutesy animals. Stereotypes of females attended in greater numbers than actual females, if you don&#8217;t include the Adobe women who were there. No wonder these stereotypes prevail. If you work in an environment with actual women you might learn that some are technically oriented and some less so, some like pink and some do not, some are airbrushed and perfect like a Victoria&#8217;s Secret model&#8230; but most are not. I am not airbrushed and perfect, as anyone who has met me online or in person knows. But I am real in a way that those Victoria&#8217;s Secret models and clueless grannies and imagined versions of mature mothers are not. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: leisa.reichelt</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well... this was invite only, yes?
seems like a question to ask Adobe. 
Were women not invited or did they choose not to attend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well&#8230; this was invite only, yes?<br />
seems like a question to ask Adobe.<br />
Were women not invited or did they choose not to attend?</p>
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