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	<title>Comments on: Why defend those that would fire you in a heartbeat? On journalism</title>
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		<title>By: Throbert McGee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Throbert McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 03:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the basis of two years' experience as a "journalist" covering the consumer electronics industry, I would say that journalists are in it for the junkets...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the basis of two years&#8217; experience as a &#8220;journalist&#8221; covering the consumer electronics industry, I would say that journalists are in it for the junkets&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jgovernor</title>
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		<dc:creator>jgovernor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free or slave wage? Like i said Kevin - I used to be a journalist... and journalists in my experience are actually not in it for the money. If they were money oriented they would do something else. 

I would say become bloggers as well, not instead - develop your personal brand, consider new revenue opportunities, and associated community streams. I just read The Search by John Battelle. Superb journalism. Top notch. He said he couldnt have done it without his blog.

My argument is with those that would attack blogs as something inferior, or by definition bad, or a poor information source. Maybe that's a straw man - but its a behaviour I see a lot.

I am an industry analyst but I welcome bloggers into my space. Great analysis is great whether its on redmonk.com or anywhere else. I celebrate a broader, more inclusive conversation, and a reduced influence of the Tell It From The Mountain school of industry advisory. 

I wouldn't want to be a "professional blogger" either - because I like to get paid and I already have a model that allows that, without working for a big media company. But nor would I dismiss the quality of expertise and theory-based analysis on blogs. 

Also notice I said Marxist, not socialist. Taking over the means of production was a key element in earning a fair wage, according to Marx's theory, rather than being abused by the system, by those that own the means of production. Capitalist eats itself, according to Marx - he was a theorist of creative destruction as much as anything else. See the music industry...

But forget the theory. What's important is finding a well enough paid job that offers some freedom and some security and some job satisfaction. I don't think there are many of those in print or online media today. 

I am an entrepreneur myself and recommend others follow the same route. Blogging is one of the key tools of the entrepreneur in 2007. 

Its not about navel-gazing but living well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free or slave wage? Like i said Kevin - I used to be a journalist&#8230; and journalists in my experience are actually not in it for the money. If they were money oriented they would do something else. </p>
<p>I would say become bloggers as well, not instead - develop your personal brand, consider new revenue opportunities, and associated community streams. I just read The Search by John Battelle. Superb journalism. Top notch. He said he couldnt have done it without his blog.</p>
<p>My argument is with those that would attack blogs as something inferior, or by definition bad, or a poor information source. Maybe that&#8217;s a straw man - but its a behaviour I see a lot.</p>
<p>I am an industry analyst but I welcome bloggers into my space. Great analysis is great whether its on redmonk.com or anywhere else. I celebrate a broader, more inclusive conversation, and a reduced influence of the Tell It From The Mountain school of industry advisory. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t want to be a &#8220;professional blogger&#8221; either - because I like to get paid and I already have a model that allows that, without working for a big media company. But nor would I dismiss the quality of expertise and theory-based analysis on blogs. </p>
<p>Also notice I said Marxist, not socialist. Taking over the means of production was a key element in earning a fair wage, according to Marx&#8217;s theory, rather than being abused by the system, by those that own the means of production. Capitalist eats itself, according to Marx - he was a theorist of creative destruction as much as anything else. See the music industry&#8230;</p>
<p>But forget the theory. What&#8217;s important is finding a well enough paid job that offers some freedom and some security and some job satisfaction. I don&#8217;t think there are many of those in print or online media today. </p>
<p>I am an entrepreneur myself and recommend others follow the same route. Blogging is one of the key tools of the entrepreneur in 2007. </p>
<p>Its not about navel-gazing but living well.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Stansberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Stansberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, great post. I am a tech journalist and I totally agree with your assessment of how the typical news story is made at a lot of publications. My company is getting more involved with the blogging community, which I think is great. It will also help us combat the issue you outlined. We are planning to use our blogs for "industry news", publishing product and industry stories as fast as they happen. Contributors/readers and senior editors will add reaction and analysis of the news. This will take the burden of covering the latest and greatest off of our reporting staff, allowing them to focus on topical, research-based reporting, spending less time following the PR cycle. Also, it informs us on what our readers think about a news event, which is even better than hearing it from an analyst. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, great post. I am a tech journalist and I totally agree with your assessment of how the typical news story is made at a lot of publications. My company is getting more involved with the blogging community, which I think is great. It will also help us combat the issue you outlined. We are planning to use our blogs for &#8220;industry news&#8221;, publishing product and industry stories as fast as they happen. Contributors/readers and senior editors will add reaction and analysis of the news. This will take the burden of covering the latest and greatest off of our reporting staff, allowing them to focus on topical, research-based reporting, spending less time following the PR cycle. Also, it informs us on what our readers think about a news event, which is even better than hearing it from an analyst. <img src='http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don't all do it for the glory, or even the "voice". We need to get paid. 

Journalists defend journalism because it's our livelihood, and becoming bloggers instead means we wouldn't get paid.

As far as I can tell, so far there's been no demonstrable business model for news blogging. Even the big names, with some exceptions, are struggling.

I'm no political scholar, but surely the socialist movement is/was about adequately compensating workers for their labor, not about asking them to work for free or a slave wage.

Personally, if I thought I could make a proper salary blogging, I'd quit in a second and celebrate Marxist theory until the cows come home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t all do it for the glory, or even the &#8220;voice&#8221;. We need to get paid. </p>
<p>Journalists defend journalism because it&#8217;s our livelihood, and becoming bloggers instead means we wouldn&#8217;t get paid.</p>
<p>As far as I can tell, so far there&#8217;s been no demonstrable business model for news blogging. Even the big names, with some exceptions, are struggling.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no political scholar, but surely the socialist movement is/was about adequately compensating workers for their labor, not about asking them to work for free or a slave wage.</p>
<p>Personally, if I thought I could make a proper salary blogging, I&#8217;d quit in a second and celebrate Marxist theory until the cows come home.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Vario Creative Blog &#187; James Govenor - Why defend those that would fire you in a heartbeat? On journalism</dc:creator>
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