Comments on: Dork post: RFC vs XML Web Services performance test http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/01/10/dork-post-rfc-vs-xml-web-services-performance-test/ An industry analyst blog looking at software ecosystems and convergence Fri, 03 Feb 2012 10:35:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mark O'Neill http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/01/10/dork-post-rfc-vs-xml-web-services-performance-test/comment-page-1/#comment-12454 Mark O'Neill Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:15:59 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/01/10/dork-post-rfc-vs-xml-web-services-performance-test/#comment-12454 Rich hits the nail on the head here. For example, if you use a profiler to see where the bottlenecks are in Java processing of XML documents, you find that it's not at the actual parsing level, but at the object-creation level [and anything else concerning objects - marshalling, mapping]. People say it's a problem of XML being "text-based", but XML itself isn't so much to blame here, but rather the blame may go back to the original assumptions of how XML should be mapped to objects. I was programming with ASN.1 parsers and EDI parsers 10 years ago and that kind of object-creation overload would have been unconscionable then. I'd love to write more, but I'm afraid I'd be lynched by my colleagues for giving away too much XML acceleration "secret sauce" in a public forum :-). But, we do have a case study of how we deployed appliances to offload processing from a SAP XI environment here: http://www.vordel.com/customers/manufacturing.html . I'm happy to provide more technical details via email at http://radio.xmlstoragesystem.com/rcsPublic/mailto?usernum=0111797 Rich hits the nail on the head here. For example, if you use a profiler to see where the bottlenecks are in Java processing of XML documents, you find that it’s not at the actual parsing level, but at the object-creation level [and anything else concerning objects - marshalling, mapping]. People say it’s a problem of XML being “text-based”, but XML itself isn’t so much to blame here, but rather the blame may go back to the original assumptions of how XML should be mapped to objects. I was programming with ASN.1 parsers and EDI parsers 10 years ago and that kind of object-creation overload would have been unconscionable then.

I’d love to write more, but I’m afraid I’d be lynched by my colleagues for giving away too much XML acceleration “secret sauce” in a public forum :-) . But, we do have a case study of how we deployed appliances to offload processing from a SAP XI environment here: http://www.vordel.com/customers/manufacturing.html . I’m happy to provide more technical details via email at http://radio.xmlstoragesystem.com/rcsPublic/mailto?usernum=0111797

]]> By: Rich Salz http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/01/10/dork-post-rfc-vs-xml-web-services-performance-test/comment-page-1/#comment-11514 Rich Salz Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:49:44 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/01/10/dork-post-rfc-vs-xml-web-services-performance-test/#comment-11514 What would you like to hear? :) Our experiences agree with the comments by you and Daniel. I believe that one factor for this is the relative maturity of the TCP/HTTP/SSL stacks compared to the XML parsers; another is probably trying to do XML/object mapping "gorp" What would you like to hear? :) Our experiences agree with the comments by you and Daniel. I believe that one factor for this is the relative maturity of the TCP/HTTP/SSL stacks compared to the XML parsers; another is probably trying to do XML/object mapping “gorp”

]]> By: Gary E Smith http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/01/10/dork-post-rfc-vs-xml-web-services-performance-test/comment-page-1/#comment-9669 Gary E Smith Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:54:28 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/01/10/dork-post-rfc-vs-xml-web-services-performance-test/#comment-9669 Does Size Matter? Does Size Matter?

]]> By: dan mcweeney http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/01/10/dork-post-rfc-vs-xml-web-services-performance-test/comment-page-1/#comment-9549 dan mcweeney Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:34:55 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2007/01/10/dork-post-rfc-vs-xml-web-services-performance-test/#comment-9549 I actually tried to put it on swivel, but there were lots of data sets and it seems that it only supports one data column at a time which is a bit of a nightmare. If people want though i will throw it up there. I actually tried to put it on swivel, but there were lots of data sets and it seems that it only supports one data column at a time which is a bit of a nightmare. If people want though i will throw it up there.

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