Comments on: SAP seeks Adobe Moderator for Developer Network, Doesn’t Care About UIs

By: Craig Cmehil

Craig Cmehil — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:38:49 +0000

Hey James - due to Matthias’ “daddy” break I had not mentioned him directly but he is a godsend for SDN and once he’s back in daily action he and I’ll be talking more Adobe/SDN stuff
Not that anyone got the wrong idea and thought we had “no one” from Adobe helping and all that.

Love the posts keep them coming!

By: Matthias Zeller

Matthias Zeller — Thu, 07 Dec 2006 03:17:40 +0000

James
Baby pics are here…
http://blog.maxzeller.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/matzeller/

By: james governor

james governor — Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:31:01 +0000

Gary - i am loving being a dad. best thing in the world.

Matthias - congratulations man. that is GREAT. you have any pics i can check out?

By: James

James — Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:53:29 +0000

Figured an enterprisey person should respond with his own definition of what is enterprise software. I am of the belief that it primarily refers to a sales model where you get folks to show up in pretty suits and ties to do demos in wonderful Powerpoint so that EA types don’t have to do it themselves. Maybe Redmonk needs to post their own definition of enterprise in future blog entries. I suspect that you, Cote and Steve probably even wouldn’t agree…

By: Matthias Zeller

Matthias Zeller — Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:56:27 +0000

James,
good summary of the recent discussion around the power of extending SAP applications with Adobe Flex UI. There are a number of other customers who have done so already as well. Are you at the SAP Analyst days this week? If so please make sure to meet with Andre Salazar from Adobe who is presenting the work we did in further integrating Flex with SAP. I also wanted to point out that I have been working with the SDN community from day one (back in 2004). Did you know we hosted a 2 hour Flex SAP integration hands-on workshop at SDN day in Las Vegas and Amsterdam. Technical Flex content (specifically around integration with SAP) for SDN (incl. forum) is clearly in our plans, similar to the presence we have already with SAP Interactive Forms by Adobe (https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/interactiveforms). BTW there is even a book on developing Flex 2 applications on top of SAP ( http://www.sappress.com/product.cfm?account=&product=H1951 it is available in German today and the English version will be released in March).
Need to change diapers now (my son is two weeks old) but plan to write some more thoughts on my Blog (http://blog.matthiaszeller.com) tomorrow.

Cheers,

Matthias
Group Product Manager
SAP Alliance Management
Adobe Systems

By: Thomas Otter

Thomas Otter — Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:56:22 +0000

James,
The point I tried to make was that a great GUI experience is not the end goal. A better process is. Take the accounts payable example we picked up on. Self service is a process change. The UI follows process. If you don’t work on the process first, you end up building the application for the wrong user.

I’m not dismissing the need for a better user interface experience, I just don’t want it to crowd out the need for a better process.

I’m not sure you are right about Sabre. The real UI for Sabre is not the command line, but travelocity, the lufthansa etc websites, your mobile phone and the selfservice kiosk.

Put bluntly, even if a fabulous 2.0 rounded edges and widget wonderland UI rather than the command line made reservation clerks happier and faster, the real innovation is elsewhere.

By: Gary Potter

Gary Potter — Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:38:00 +0000

Thanks for the mention - how’s daddyhood?