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	<title>Comments on: Case Study: T-Mobile and Adobe Flex, Extending SAP with Agile methods</title>
	<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/12/01/case-study-t-mobile-and-adobe-flex-extending-sap-with-agile-methods/</link>
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		<title>By: Thomas Otter</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/12/01/case-study-t-mobile-and-adobe-flex-extending-sap-with-agile-methods/#comment-2057</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Otter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/12/01/case-study-t-mobile-and-adobe-flex-extending-sap-with-agile-methods/#comment-2057</guid>
		<description>James,
saw this from the Analyst days...

Among them was Dan McWeeney, business-process analyst at Colgate-Palmolive, which runs about 95% of its business on SAP. McWeeney says his team has built a proof-of-concept application using the Ruby on Rails open-source development language. "Pretty much every open source language can consume SOA easily," he said. McWeeney said the application for human-resources management was easy to develop and plug into the back-end SAP system, with little knowledge requirements of SAP. 

&lt;a href="http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/dailyarchives.jhtml?articleId=196601726" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/dailyarchives.jhtml?articleId=196601726&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,<br />
saw this from the Analyst days&#8230;</p>
<p>Among them was Dan McWeeney, business-process analyst at Colgate-Palmolive, which runs about 95% of its business on SAP. McWeeney says his team has built a proof-of-concept application using the Ruby on Rails open-source development language. &#8220;Pretty much every open source language can consume SOA easily,&#8221; he said. McWeeney said the application for human-resources management was easy to develop and plug into the back-end SAP system, with little knowledge requirements of SAP. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/dailyarchives.jhtml?articleId=196601726" rel="nofollow">http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/dailyarchives.jhtml?articleId=196601726</a></p>
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		<title>By: Craig Cmehil</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/12/01/case-study-t-mobile-and-adobe-flex-extending-sap-with-agile-methods/#comment-2056</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Cmehil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/12/01/case-study-t-mobile-and-adobe-flex-extending-sap-with-agile-methods/#comment-2056</guid>
		<description>It seems that James finally got around to blogging about something he saw. He talked a bit about it during one of the RedMonk Radio episodes but did not even scrat …</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that James finally got around to blogging about something he saw. He talked a bit about it during one of the RedMonk Radio episodes but did not even scrat …</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/12/01/case-study-t-mobile-and-adobe-flex-extending-sap-with-agile-methods/#comment-2055</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 21:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/12/01/case-study-t-mobile-and-adobe-flex-extending-sap-with-agile-methods/#comment-2055</guid>
		<description>Would love to see you attend: &lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/manchester/2006/11/blogging_workshop_at_bbc_manch_1.shtml#commentsanchor" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/manchester/2006/11/blogging_workshop_at_bbc_manch_1.shtml#commentsanchor&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would love to see you attend: <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/manchester/2006/11/blogging_workshop_at_bbc_manch_1.shtml#commentsanchor" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/manchester/2006/11/blogging_workshop_at_bbc_manch_1.shtml#commentsanchor</a></p>
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		<title>By: dan mcweeney</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/12/01/case-study-t-mobile-and-adobe-flex-extending-sap-with-agile-methods/#comment-2054</link>
		<dc:creator>dan mcweeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/12/01/case-study-t-mobile-and-adobe-flex-extending-sap-with-agile-methods/#comment-2054</guid>
		<description>James - 
  I think things like this are only good for SAP and here's why.  SAP sucks at UI, they always have and they probably always will; the shift you are starting to see is that SAP has finally decided as a corporation that they can't compete in the UI space, specifically on the web.  From a business perspective they need to be focusing on the stability and diversity of their business applications, namely what they are best at.  My CIO has said it a million times before, he can't remember the last time someone said one of our R/3 systems was down.   However, I can never remember him saying that people truly enjoy using them  :-).  SAP needs to allow customers to create new paths to their own data --- you are starting to see this with the widget and scripting communities.  Personally, though I am not sure the SAP customer base is ready to make these type of decisions for themselves.  Customers have always bought a total solution from SAP, from database to UI so, it is interesting to see companies that are unafraid of those choices.  As for the agile stuff, I am stewing on a new blog, I'll be sure to trackback here.

-d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James -<br />
  I think things like this are only good for SAP and here&#8217;s why.  SAP sucks at UI, they always have and they probably always will; the shift you are starting to see is that SAP has finally decided as a corporation that they can&#8217;t compete in the UI space, specifically on the web.  From a business perspective they need to be focusing on the stability and diversity of their business applications, namely what they are best at.  My CIO has said it a million times before, he can&#8217;t remember the last time someone said one of our R/3 systems was down.   However, I can never remember him saying that people truly enjoy using them  :-).  SAP needs to allow customers to create new paths to their own data &#8212; you are starting to see this with the widget and scripting communities.  Personally, though I am not sure the SAP customer base is ready to make these type of decisions for themselves.  Customers have always bought a total solution from SAP, from database to UI so, it is interesting to see companies that are unafraid of those choices.  As for the agile stuff, I am stewing on a new blog, I&#8217;ll be sure to trackback here.</p>
<p>-d</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Otter</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/12/01/case-study-t-mobile-and-adobe-flex-extending-sap-with-agile-methods/#comment-2053</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Otter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 01:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/12/01/case-study-t-mobile-and-adobe-flex-extending-sap-with-agile-methods/#comment-2053</guid>
		<description>James,
Cool bananas. Any chance of a screencam or a couple of screen prints? 

Actually come to think of it I'd like to see a youtube type arrangement for demos. Imagine being able to go and see demos of all the products and developments you were interested in.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,<br />
Cool bananas. Any chance of a screencam or a couple of screen prints? </p>
<p>Actually come to think of it I&#8217;d like to see a youtube type arrangement for demos. Imagine being able to go and see demos of all the products and developments you were interested in.</p>
<p>Thomas</p>
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