Comments on: My First Gartner Cease And Desist: the missing link

By: Andrew Smith

Andrew Smith — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 23:30:56 +0000

What about:

http://www.hyperion.com/company/news/industry_analyst/

By: HughToppe

HughToppe — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 00:34:54 +0000

I think this thing is amusing but I’d not make too much out of it. As a brouhaha, it won’t match the scale of the O’Reilly Web 2.0 faux pas (http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/05/controversy_about_our_web_20_s.html)

Large successful companies, no matter whether it is Microsoft, IBM or Gartner (not that Gartner approaches the scale of those vendors) have many people lurking in cubicles in beady eyes with green eyeshades, who are completely absorbed in the very narrow scope mission they have been given. (This is one reason for the company’s original success, the ability to build a workforce that includes both beady-eyed and wide-eyed contributors).

So once in a while an over-zealous functionary steps into turf that is different from their day-to-day chores, and a misfire occurs. Happens. Unless I misread Gartner’s recent writings on Web2, I don’t think this is a strategic salvo, just a misfire (with hopefully no collateral damage to James). I hope non-beady-eyed people at Gartner are made aware of this, and bring clues to the clueless, and perhaps even an apology to James (one can dream). As Tim O’Reilly apologized for a similar misfire. Please keep us posted!

By: ARonaut

ARonaut — Fri, 14 Jul 2006 23:02:10 +0000

Now, this thread is certainly getting some interest…

James, I’d love to see the C&D posted -this is the logical conclusion of your post. At least, pls send me a copy.

Re. the motive of the C&D, does anyone know if deep linking is illegal?

By: James

James — Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:40:25 +0000

Would it help if say your email from Gartner was accidentally forwarded to an enterprise architect blogger who immediately posted it and of course you sent him a cease and desist but it went ignored?

By: stephen o'grady

stephen o'grady — Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:20:48 +0000

ian: just heard from the author - it was a joke. an ill considered one, but a joke. i won’t delete the post, because it’s james’ blog, but i’ll ask him to.

By: Tim Marman

Tim Marman — Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:58:29 +0000

I posted about this, including the link.

http://slashstar.com/blogs/tim/archive/2006/07/11/Gartner_sends_a_cease_and_desist_for_a_link.aspx

Gartner needs to get a clue. It doesn’t matter whether this is copyrighted - because a link is simply NOT a reproduction and thus not subject to their exclusionary rights under copyright.

I’m also assuming the above comment is a joke. If it’s not, well, then take the f’ing link down instead of sending out C&Ds. It scales better anyway.

By: Adam

Adam — Fri, 14 Jul 2006 07:39:20 +0000

That is pathetic on Gartner’s part. I think they can’t take a little constructive criticism, and that’s the real issue. As someone in the info security industry, I will be thinking a little harder from know on when reading their reports at work.

By: catherine helzerman

catherine helzerman — Fri, 14 Jul 2006 05:14:59 +0000

Two words: POST IT

By: Ian Skerrett

Ian Skerrett — Fri, 14 Jul 2006 03:21:32 +0000

Please tell me that the comment from ‘Gartner’ is a joke.

By: David Rossiter

David Rossiter — Fri, 14 Jul 2006 01:52:27 +0000

James, I have just spent part of the afternoon talking about this with an analyst I know. We looked at it every which way but cannot understand why Gartner would behave in this way. Given your position in the market, it’s remarkable. Gartner’s now probably had more visits to that page than it would ever have done before.