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	<title>Comments on: Sun App Server Rebounds Significantly</title>
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		<title>By: gavan</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/05/12/sun-app-server-rebounds-significantly/comment-page-1/#comment-1548</link>
		<dc:creator>gavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 04:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not realise that Jboss had that higher market share ,no wonder microsoft is making plans to work with them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not realise that Jboss had that higher market share ,no wonder microsoft is making plans to work with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Weibust</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/05/12/sun-app-server-rebounds-significantly/comment-page-1/#comment-1547</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Weibust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 07:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always found it very sad that Sun does so miserable in the app server space.  I spent 5 years with their product from 2000-2005 (Netscape App Server, iPlanet, and then SunOne) and didn&#039;t think it was that bad.  Anyhow, it never made sense to me why Sun wouldn&#039;t try to push the J2EE servers any harder then they did.  Now they ARE an afterthought.  Nothing more then the RI for the J2EE spec.

Erik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always found it very sad that Sun does so miserable in the app server space.  I spent 5 years with their product from 2000-2005 (Netscape App Server, iPlanet, and then SunOne) and didn&#8217;t think it was that bad.  Anyhow, it never made sense to me why Sun wouldn&#8217;t try to push the J2EE servers any harder then they did.  Now they ARE an afterthought.  Nothing more then the RI for the J2EE spec.</p>
<p>Erik</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 04:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are certainly interesting stats, I really like the IDE Stats ;)

(Disclaimer: I used to work for Oracle App Server team).  I recall in the past there were claims  that some adoption studies included applications where Oracle Application Server was embedded (like Oracle Apps) - and hence I think that&#039;s why there is the concious munging of versions there.  If it were ever possible, it sure would be neat to see what the actual deployed stats are like (i.e., accounting for ISV and VARS that resell apps with embedded app servers!)

 - Don</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are certainly interesting stats, I really like the IDE Stats <img src='http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(Disclaimer: I used to work for Oracle App Server team).  I recall in the past there were claims  that some adoption studies included applications where Oracle Application Server was embedded (like Oracle Apps) &#8211; and hence I think that&#8217;s why there is the concious munging of versions there.  If it were ever possible, it sure would be neat to see what the actual deployed stats are like (i.e., accounting for ISV and VARS that resell apps with embedded app servers!)</p>
<p> &#8211; Don</p>
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