Comments on: Roller swallows IBM: Whose blogging revenues are they anyway, Sun? http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/20/roller-swallows-ibm-whose-blogging-revenues-are-they-anyway-sun/ An industry analyst blog looking at software ecosystems and convergence Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:33:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: james governor http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/20/roller-swallows-ibm-whose-blogging-revenues-are-they-anyway-sun/#comment-1403 james governor Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:22:56 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/?p=550#comment-1403 sorry henri that is a very good point. that was a bit sloppy of me. to jaime's point, given Sun is paying Dave's salary, and is invested in roller in a way no other vendor is, i mispoke. its open source and therefore not Sun's IP. Notice that Dave didn't pull me up on that. IBM and Sun both contributed to Java- which is also not Sun's IP. I should have said not making money on a shared intellectual property model. sorry henri that is a very good point. that was a bit sloppy of me. to jaime’s point, given Sun is paying Dave’s salary, and is invested in roller in a way no other vendor is, i mispoke. its open source and therefore not Sun’s IP. Notice that Dave didn’t pull me up on that.

IBM and Sun both contributed to Java- which is also not Sun’s IP. I should have said not making money on a shared intellectual property model.

]]> By: Jaime Cardoso http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/20/roller-swallows-ibm-whose-blogging-revenues-are-they-anyway-sun/#comment-1402 Jaime Cardoso Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:18:47 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/?p=550#comment-1402 > Roller -> Sun's intellectual property? Hum??? No! But Sun has been investing in it (I believe Dave Johnson now works for Sun, for example) > Roller -> Sun’s intellectual property?
Hum??? No! But Sun has been investing in it (I believe Dave Johnson now works for Sun, for example)

]]> By: Henri Yandell http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/20/roller-swallows-ibm-whose-blogging-revenues-are-they-anyway-sun/#comment-1401 Henri Yandell Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:13:19 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/?p=550#comment-1401 Roller -> Sun's intellectual property? Roller -> Sun’s intellectual property?

]]> By: james governor http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/20/roller-swallows-ibm-whose-blogging-revenues-are-they-anyway-sun/#comment-1400 james governor Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:17:42 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/?p=550#comment-1400 nailed, Jaime. absolutely nailed. Roller as a point service - its not rocket science. nailed, Jaime. absolutely nailed. Roller as a point service - its not rocket science.

]]> By: Jaime Cardoso http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/20/roller-swallows-ibm-whose-blogging-revenues-are-they-anyway-sun/#comment-1399 Jaime Cardoso Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:25:25 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/?p=550#comment-1399 You make a good point. I feel that Sun got so marveled with the JES suite that it forgot that point products still have their space. It makes perfect sense to integrate Roller in Sun's Portal Server but that shouldn't be done at the expense of an independent roller with a set of services around it. We're, once again, back at the same point. Go big or go Home and Sun need to grow. A lot of Sun's solutions aren't getting nearly enough attention. Roller is simply one of those. You make a good point. I feel that Sun got so marveled with the JES suite that it forgot that point products still have their space.
It makes perfect sense to integrate Roller in Sun’s Portal Server but that shouldn’t be done at the expense of an independent roller with a set of services around it.
We’re, once again, back at the same point. Go big or go Home and Sun need to grow. A lot of Sun’s solutions aren’t getting nearly enough attention. Roller is simply one of those.

]]> By: Dave Johnson http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/20/roller-swallows-ibm-whose-blogging-revenues-are-they-anyway-sun/#comment-1398 Dave Johnson Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:40:40 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/?p=550#comment-1398 Maybe standardized is too strong a word, but according to the big blue bloggers, IBM is using Roller as it's primary internal (the 2000+ blogs at BlogCentral) and external (the couple dozen blogs at DeveloperWorks) blogging solution. Maybe standardized is too strong a word, but according to the big blue bloggers, IBM is using Roller as it’s primary internal (the 2000+ blogs at BlogCentral) and external (the couple dozen blogs at DeveloperWorks) blogging solution.

]]> By: Jerry Glover http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/20/roller-swallows-ibm-whose-blogging-revenues-are-they-anyway-sun/#comment-1397 Jerry Glover Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:38:32 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/?p=550#comment-1397 Wow, that's quite a leap there. I'm not sure how you managed to extrapolate "DeveloperWorks is in the process of migrating their external weblogs over to a Roller 2.x based platform" to "IBM has now standardised on Roller" given the massive size of IBM and the many and varied business lines, groups, etc. A lot of interesting things happen at DeveloperWorks (not to mention Alphaworks) that don't get deployed at the rest of IBM. I'm pretty confident the SWG folks will continue to use the platforms they build and sell (and have incorporated blogging into) for their blogging efforts. Wow, that’s quite a leap there. I’m not sure how you managed to extrapolate “DeveloperWorks is in the process of migrating their external weblogs over to a Roller 2.x based platform” to “IBM has now standardised on Roller” given the massive size of IBM and the many and varied business lines, groups, etc. A lot of interesting things happen at DeveloperWorks (not to mention Alphaworks) that don’t get deployed at the rest of IBM. I’m pretty confident the SWG folks will continue to use the platforms they build and sell (and have incorporated blogging into) for their blogging efforts.

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