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	<title>Comments on: Eclipse meets Netbeans Matisse finally! Rock on Genuitec</title>
	<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/</link>
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		<title>By: master</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-65400</link>
		<dc:creator>master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 07:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-65400</guid>
		<description>Bonjour, je suis entrain de developper un projet de reporting avec l'environnement (Eclipse3.2, Jboss5.0.1) mais le plugin de jboss(easieJboss) n'arriva pas  à se configurer.Svp j' ai besoin d'un aide.
merci pour votre cooperation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonjour, je suis entrain de developper un projet de reporting avec l&#8217;environnement (Eclipse3.2, Jboss5.0.1) mais le plugin de jboss(easieJboss) n&#8217;arriva pas  à se configurer.Svp j&#8217; ai besoin d&#8217;un aide.<br />
merci pour votre cooperation</p>
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		<title>By: yazid</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-38209</link>
		<dc:creator>yazid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-38209</guid>
		<description>can we use this tool by it self without eclips</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can we use this tool by it self without eclips</p>
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		<title>By: Partha Naha</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-8156</link>
		<dc:creator>Partha Naha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-8156</guid>
		<description>I really think it's very useful for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think it&#8217;s very useful for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jhon</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-1298</link>
		<dc:creator>Jhon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-1298</guid>
		<description>I really think it is cool, but after seeing netbeans 5.5 i think tools like my eclipse isnt big deal, wy paying if you can have it as good for free? :P 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think it is cool, but after seeing netbeans 5.5 i think tools like my eclipse isnt big deal, wy paying if you can have it as good for free? <img src='http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Werner Keil</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-1297</link>
		<dc:creator>Werner Keil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-1297</guid>
		<description>Almost more interesting is wheter this is some standalone GUI builder attempt once more, or if it is compatible with VE to some extent?

That demo does not really tell, if the components are based on SWT, Swing or both are possible?

What I am more concerned about, is that infamous .FORM file, that Matisse does not seem to go without either (as earlier NetBeans versions) while real 2-way GUI designers can do that on the fly...

Just remember what JBuilder was compared to Visual Cafe (which had this kind of metadata to a much higher extent)
Or the ongoing discussions and trends to make Java Enterprise more simple, by getting RID of all those XML metafiles.

So why (re)introduce them on the GUI ?!
With that kind of XML GUI definition, other technologies are able to create the GUI on the fly without a need of Java Classes (kind of like XUL) so GUI Builders having to constantly keep Java and XML (or binary) metafiles in sync are not making the client development much simpler or easier...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost more interesting is wheter this is some standalone GUI builder attempt once more, or if it is compatible with VE to some extent?</p>
<p>That demo does not really tell, if the components are based on SWT, Swing or both are possible?</p>
<p>What I am more concerned about, is that infamous .FORM file, that Matisse does not seem to go without either (as earlier NetBeans versions) while real 2-way GUI designers can do that on the fly&#8230;</p>
<p>Just remember what JBuilder was compared to Visual Cafe (which had this kind of metadata to a much higher extent)<br />
Or the ongoing discussions and trends to make Java Enterprise more simple, by getting RID of all those XML metafiles.</p>
<p>So why (re)introduce them on the GUI ?!<br />
With that kind of XML GUI definition, other technologies are able to create the GUI on the fly without a need of Java Classes (kind of like XUL) so GUI Builders having to constantly keep Java and XML (or binary) metafiles in sync are not making the client development much simpler or easier&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan.Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-1296</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan.Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-1296</guid>
		<description>Ahhh, at last, Swing components working in Eclipse on Macos X. Or is Matisse in Eclipse SWT based? Or does Matisse in Eclipse mean Windows only? Ah the joy of Eclipse truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh, at last, Swing components working in Eclipse on Macos X. Or is Matisse in Eclipse SWT based? Or does Matisse in Eclipse mean Windows only? Ah the joy of Eclipse truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-1295</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-1295</guid>
		<description>Aviad and all,

OK, we've gotten a link up with some developmental preview content of Matisse4Myeclipse at:
&lt;a href="http://www.myeclipseide.com/ContentExpress-display-ceid-77.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.myeclipseide.com/ContentExpress-display-ceid-77.html&lt;/a&gt;

Todd Williams
VP-Technology
Genuitec, LLC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aviad and all,</p>
<p>OK, we&#8217;ve gotten a link up with some developmental preview content of Matisse4Myeclipse at:<br />
<a href="http://www.myeclipseide.com/ContentExpress-display-ceid-77.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.myeclipseide.com/ContentExpress-display-ceid-77.html</a></p>
<p>Todd Williams<br />
VP-Technology<br />
Genuitec, LLC</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-1294</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 07:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-1294</guid>
		<description>Aviad,

James is just way ahead of the curve, as you'd expect from a good analyst.  

We're working on some site content to let you know exactly what's coming, but it's just not quite done yet.  We hope to have it up on the MyEclipse site by Tuesday morning (3/7).  Sorry for the delay or any confusion.

Todd Williams
VP-Technology
Genuitec, LLC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aviad,</p>
<p>James is just way ahead of the curve, as you&#8217;d expect from a good analyst.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re working on some site content to let you know exactly what&#8217;s coming, but it&#8217;s just not quite done yet.  We hope to have it up on the MyEclipse site by Tuesday morning (3/7).  Sorry for the delay or any confusion.</p>
<p>Todd Williams<br />
VP-Technology<br />
Genuitec, LLC</p>
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		<title>By: Aviad Ben Dov</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-1293</link>
		<dc:creator>Aviad Ben Dov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 05:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/03/06/eclipse-meets-netbeans-matisse-finally-rock-on-genuitec/#comment-1293</guid>
		<description>Can't seem to find such news on the MyEclipse nor on the Genuitec sites.. Can you point to an article/post specifying what this support provides?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t seem to find such news on the MyEclipse nor on the Genuitec sites.. Can you point to an article/post specifying what this support provides?</p>
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