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	<title>Comments on: Knife-sharp Analysis of Open Source and Taking Care of Business</title>
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		<title>By: stephen o'grady</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen o'grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 23:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>too kind indeed ;)

plus, we need to recall who's driving the most traffic and some of the better conversations these days. it ain't me :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too kind indeed <img src='http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
plus, we need to recall who&#8217;s driving the most traffic and some of the better conversations these days. it ain&#8217;t me <img src='http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: vinnie mirchandani</title>
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		<dc:creator>vinnie mirchandani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 07:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, India is actually getting expensive. I am equally excited and on my blog write about Rural sourcing, automation of systems management and integration, cheap broadband, cheap storage, SaaS, results based on-line advertising, x86 chips and Open source - with all hardwrae/software/services/telecom building blocks so much cheaper than 5 years ago, vendors who take advantage of and pass along this deflationary trend are poised to do better than those who hand on to old paradigms...it is a great time to be in tech. I better take my wife out to dinner, too..cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, India is actually getting expensive. I am equally excited and on my blog write about Rural sourcing, automation of systems management and integration, cheap broadband, cheap storage, SaaS, results based on-line advertising, x86 chips and Open source - with all hardwrae/software/services/telecom building blocks so much cheaper than 5 years ago, vendors who take advantage of and pass along this deflationary trend are poised to do better than those who hand on to old paradigms&#8230;it is a great time to be in tech. I better take my wife out to dinner, too..cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Cote'</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cote'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, shucks: you're too kind ;&#62;

Reflecting on it, for the practitioner, I don't think open source and closed source are different. As I mentioned in today's follow up post, open source now-a-days is like breathing: it's the normal state of things.

That said, there very much is are groups of people you can call "closed source thinkers" and "open source thinkers." The catch is that the first group is just slower to realize how much things have already changed and how much more things are going to change. The shift is subtle to kool-aid drinkers like us, but my gut tells me that it's going to be dramatic once it takes hold: like the move from  a 56k dial-up to an always on broadband connection. 

To put it another way, as you said, "[they] just hasn't fully realised it yet." That full realization will open all sorts of doors for change, and it'll be fascinating to see who goes through which doors. For example, in an open source world, all your coders don't need to work for the same company. Imagine how different things would be if MS Office was coded by MSFT'ers and non-MSFT's alike. Or Vista. What if Linus was a core member of the Windows team?

Those kinds of things are just subtle mental shifts -- "oh, all those people can be partners instead of enemies" -- but they have big consequences. I'm dying for the day when "The Big Baddies" (from a pure OSS perspective, not mine) invite people like Fleury, Stallman, Linus, Miguel, &#38;co. to come to their company and say to them, "OK, have at it. Here's cash and people. Now what?" 

There's plenty -- P-L-E-N-T-Y, plenty! -- to be cynical about that line of thinking, but it's a good pile of goo to start flinging around to see what sticks. And like you were saying about Ellison and Fleury, I'd *pay* to see that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, shucks: you&#8217;re too kind ;&gt;</p>
<p>Reflecting on it, for the practitioner, I don&#8217;t think open source and closed source are different. As I mentioned in today&#8217;s follow up post, open source now-a-days is like breathing: it&#8217;s the normal state of things.</p>
<p>That said, there very much is are groups of people you can call &#8220;closed source thinkers&#8221; and &#8220;open source thinkers.&#8221; The catch is that the first group is just slower to realize how much things have already changed and how much more things are going to change. The shift is subtle to kool-aid drinkers like us, but my gut tells me that it&#8217;s going to be dramatic once it takes hold: like the move from  a 56k dial-up to an always on broadband connection. </p>
<p>To put it another way, as you said, &#8220;[they] just hasn&#8217;t fully realised it yet.&#8221; That full realization will open all sorts of doors for change, and it&#8217;ll be fascinating to see who goes through which doors. For example, in an open source world, all your coders don&#8217;t need to work for the same company. Imagine how different things would be if MS Office was coded by MSFT&#8217;ers and non-MSFT&#8217;s alike. Or Vista. What if Linus was a core member of the Windows team?</p>
<p>Those kinds of things are just subtle mental shifts &#8212; &#8220;oh, all those people can be partners instead of enemies&#8221; &#8212; but they have big consequences. I&#8217;m dying for the day when &#8220;The Big Baddies&#8221; (from a pure OSS perspective, not mine) invite people like Fleury, Stallman, Linus, Miguel, &amp;co. to come to their company and say to them, &#8220;OK, have at it. Here&#8217;s cash and people. Now what?&#8221; </p>
<p>There&#8217;s plenty &#8212; P-L-E-N-T-Y, plenty! &#8212; to be cynical about that line of thinking, but it&#8217;s a good pile of goo to start flinging around to see what sticks. And like you were saying about Ellison and Fleury, I&#8217;d *pay* to see that.</p>
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