Comments on: How To Become An Industry Analyst Part 3 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/23/how-to-become-an-industry-analyst-part-3/ An industry analyst blog looking at software ecosystems and convergence Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:48:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Jon Reed http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/23/how-to-become-an-industry-analyst-part-3/#comment-209209 Jon Reed Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:26:52 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/?p=472#comment-209209 James, great entry. I enjoyed your links and comments on "Declarative Living." Your comment on an analyst being defined in this way: "What makes an industry analyst? The industry does. Only the industry, the market, can truly apply the tag. We gain our credibility from the works we do and the people we interact with." - Very well said, could not agree more! From the great analysts I have known and perhaps someday aspire to myself, this is the constant. I think I would add to this the importance of having an unwavering commitment to the truth, but also a passion for the marketplaces you cover. The reason I feel this way is because I think that vendors and those in vendor communities are much more likely to tolerate and even listen to critical takes if they know it is coming from someone who is not looking to take cheap potshots but who has a genuine passion for and stake in the markets they are commenting on. I think the reason I aspire to be an analyst is that there is something pretty special about being able to say, "I get paid to tell the truth." It seems like the redmonk folks are cultivating that and it is something I am aspiring to in my work in SAP also. James, great entry. I enjoyed your links and comments on “Declarative Living.”

Your comment on an analyst being defined in this way: “What makes an industry analyst? The industry does. Only the industry, the market, can truly apply the tag. We gain our credibility from the works we do and the people we interact with.” - Very well said, could not agree more!

From the great analysts I have known and perhaps someday aspire to myself, this is the constant. I think I would add to this the importance of having an unwavering commitment to the truth, but also a passion for the marketplaces you cover. The reason I feel this way is because I think that vendors and those in vendor communities are much more likely to tolerate and even listen to critical takes if they know it is coming from someone who is not looking to take cheap potshots but who has a genuine passion for and stake in the markets they are commenting on.

I think the reason I aspire to be an analyst is that there is something pretty special about being able to say, “I get paid to tell the truth.” It seems like the redmonk folks are cultivating that and it is something I am aspiring to in my work in SAP also.

]]> By: james governor http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/23/how-to-become-an-industry-analyst-part-3/#comment-1012 james governor Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:52:27 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/?p=472#comment-1012 thanks very much james. but its a continuum really. i wouldnt like to say redmonk is utterly without blemish when it comes to conflicts of interest. After all, we make the majority of our revenues from vendors, although we fight hard for our indepedence. its an industry problem and we *REALLY* appreciate your kind thoughts. the best we can do i think is to be transparent about client relationships. thanks very much james. but its a continuum really. i wouldnt like to say redmonk is utterly without blemish when it comes to conflicts of interest. After all, we make the majority of our revenues from vendors, although we fight hard for our indepedence. its an industry problem and we *REALLY* appreciate your kind thoughts.

the best we can do i think is to be transparent about client relationships.

]]> By: James http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/23/how-to-become-an-industry-analyst-part-3/#comment-1011 James Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:30:26 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/?p=472#comment-1011 Don't ever think for a second that when I am talking about problems with industry analysts that I am referring to RedMonk. Noticed on Stephen's latest blog entry he actually states who is a client and who is not. Folks appreciate this form of transparency. Any thoughts on what it would take for other analyst firm bloggers to steal this idea and pervasively implement... Don’t ever think for a second that when I am talking about problems with industry analysts that I am referring to RedMonk. Noticed on Stephen’s latest blog entry he actually states who is a client and who is not. Folks appreciate this form of transparency.

Any thoughts on what it would take for other analyst firm bloggers to steal this idea and pervasively implement…

]]> By: Duane Nickull http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/23/how-to-become-an-industry-analyst-part-3/#comment-1010 Duane Nickull Tue, 24 Jan 2006 02:57:21 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/?p=472#comment-1010 Oh yeah! Someone finally debunks the industry. There are rules for analysts to live by (http://technoracle.blogspot.com/2006/01/nickull-threshold.html) however I would be happier if more adopted such a pragmatic approach. Declarative living is only the start too. Making claims puts the information out there, but having those claims validated by others we place trust in is what establishes the level of confidence one has in another. Would love to see a model for this expressed in some form of ADL such as UML one day ;-) Oh yeah! Someone finally debunks the industry. There are rules for analysts to live by (http://technoracle.blogspot.com/2006/01/nickull-threshold.html)
however I would be happier if more adopted such a pragmatic approach. Declarative living is only the start too. Making claims puts the information out there, but having those claims validated by others we place trust in is what establishes the level of confidence one has in another.

Would love to see a model for this expressed in some form of ADL such as UML one day ;-)

]]> By: james governor http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/23/how-to-become-an-industry-analyst-part-3/#comment-1009 james governor Tue, 24 Jan 2006 00:13:36 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/?p=472#comment-1009 actually there are industry analysts in other industries already - pharma, for example... these industries are hard to navigate, and numbers never tell the whole story actually there are industry analysts in other industries already - pharma, for example…

these industries are hard to navigate, and numbers never tell the whole story

]]> By: /pd http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/23/how-to-become-an-industry-analyst-part-3/#comment-1008 /pd Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:57:36 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/wp/?p=472#comment-1008 I have never thought of myself as an analyst. Can there be an "industry analyst" who diggs into information and data in vertical segements other then IT ?? would they also be called as industry analyst too ?? It seems that I am the only blogger named in person under the "industry news" catogory in this url <a href="http://blog.cmsconsultants.com/blog" rel="nofollow">http://blog.cmsconsultants.com/blog</a> So does this in a anyway make me an analyst in this verical segment ?? I have never thought of myself as an analyst, should I become thinking of myself as one ?? Whats your opinion ?? I have never thought of myself as an analyst. Can there be an “industry analyst” who diggs into information and data in vertical segements other then IT ?? would they also be called as industry analyst too ??

It seems that I am the only blogger named in person under the “industry news” catogory in this url http://blog.cmsconsultants.com/blog

So does this in a anyway make me an analyst in this verical segment ?? I have never thought of myself as an analyst, should I become thinking of myself as one ??

Whats your opinion ??

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