Comments on: On The Emergence of Professional Tag Gardeners http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/ An industry analyst blog looking at software ecosystems and convergence Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:02:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Arshia http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-371918 Arshia Wed, 14 May 2008 15:20:12 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-371918 Hi, Iam working as volunteer for an organisation as a link manager wehre my responsiblities are managing links ,Managing blogroll,categorisation using word press.Iam also looking forward to work as a Tag gardener for them.Please assist me what is the specific role & the skills to improve for Tag Gardening. Please email me at arshibaig@gmail.com. Thanks & regards, Arshia Hi,

Iam working as volunteer for an organisation as a link manager wehre my responsiblities are managing links ,Managing blogroll,categorisation using word press.Iam also looking forward to work as a
Tag gardener for them.Please assist me what is the specific role & the skills to improve for
Tag Gardening.
Please email me at arshibaig@gmail.com.

Thanks & regards,
Arshia

]]> By: Poopoo La Chomp http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-294486 Poopoo La Chomp Mon, 04 Feb 2008 02:20:42 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-294486 Governor, how do manage to you get your shirt on over that inflated ego every day? And to think most people think Steve Jobs is a hypemeister. Governor, how do manage to you get your shirt on over that inflated ego every day? And to think most people think Steve Jobs is a hypemeister.

]]> By: John Taylor http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-192515 John Taylor Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:10:18 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-192515 You have to laugh at the irony... I'm looking for gardening related sites and find a great article on "Tag Gardening" ;-) You have to laugh at the irony… I’m looking for gardening related sites and find a great article on “Tag Gardening” ;-)

]]> By: People Over Process http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-928 People Over Process Mon, 20 Feb 2006 01:09:12 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-928 <strong>MySpace, The Culture of Customization, and Person Portals</strong> In reply to a recent post about commoditization of IT, "Fraxis" ended his comment about customization in the software world with: I think the fact that companies still do have to call up manufacturers and get customized software demonstrates some... MySpace, The Culture of Customization, and Person Portals

In reply to a recent post about commoditization of IT, “Fraxis” ended his comment about customization in the software world with: I think the fact that companies still do have to call up manufacturers and get customized software demonstrates some…

]]> By: People Over Process http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-927 People Over Process Tue, 14 Feb 2006 03:01:45 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-927 <strong>The Exciting World of Middleware!</strong> One meaning of the phrase "enterprise software" is "confusing as hell!". To that end, I thought I'd look up how a few companies pitch their middleware offerings. Here we go! Oracle + J2EE = Integration Oracle Fusion: Oracle Fusion Middleware... The Exciting World of Middleware!

One meaning of the phrase “enterprise software” is “confusing as hell!”. To that end, I thought I’d look up how a few companies pitch their middleware offerings. Here we go! Oracle + J2EE = Integration Oracle Fusion: Oracle Fusion Middleware…

]]> By: Dennis Howlett http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-926 Dennis Howlett Fri, 13 Jan 2006 02:20:07 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-926 This is a fascinating topic and one I've been playing with as the occasion demands and in my own quiet way. Development of meme gardens is very much a geek activity. As business picks up the idea then some existing memes will stay while others morph into terms more appropriate to the audience and segment concerned. I see this as reflective of the taxonomies that people expect to see in their daily work. But...phrases as opposed to single words will be the order of the day - example from my world: arctic - splurge arctic systems - less splurge arctic systems section 660 - subject matter stuff arctic systems HMRC defeat - as above but event specific another... KPMG - corporate then comment KPMG fined - related case KPMG fined $456 million - specific event This is how I'm seeing people search - Google/Yahoo! currently rule the means of initial access to a meme but will it stay like this? So now my tags are much more descriptive with a number consisting of phrases. Another way I've tried this is to use phrases to develop small but topic relevant resources. You use del.icio.us and Squidoo, I use Furl which I then republish to my site. The idea is to get people to consume and add to the collective knowledge on the topic and maybe even use phrases as either a collection point for related material. Does this lead to complexity? Actually no. If anything, it plays directly to common sense thinking applied to topic specific content. The trick for gardening professionals is getting them to understand the common sense nature of people's thinking about search phrases rather than trying to be clever about likely attention getting phrases. So the fact KPMG created illegal tax shelters is both topic (illegal tax shelters) and event/business (KPMG) specific starts to work in many ways. Over time, we might - using my example - use phrase memes in many ways...what about reputation assessment? There is a problem. Today, most of my audience relies on straight Google style search and usually see sites as an electronic ad space. The upside is it allows people like myself to experiment without fear of debate around what a phrase meme means (sic.) It's a hugely important topic. Let's keep this one going. This is a fascinating topic and one I’ve been playing with as the occasion demands and in my own quiet way.

Development of meme gardens is very much a geek activity. As business picks up the idea then some existing memes will stay while others morph into terms more appropriate to the audience and segment concerned. I see this as reflective of the taxonomies that people expect to see in their daily work. But…phrases as opposed to single words will be the order of the day - example from my world:

arctic - splurge
arctic systems - less splurge
arctic systems section 660 - subject matter stuff
arctic systems HMRC defeat - as above but event specific

another…
KPMG - corporate then comment
KPMG fined - related case
KPMG fined $456 million - specific event

This is how I’m seeing people search - Google/Yahoo! currently rule the means of initial access to a meme but will it stay like this?

So now my tags are much more descriptive with a number consisting of phrases.

Another way I’ve tried this is to use phrases to develop small but topic relevant resources. You use del.icio.us and Squidoo, I use Furl which I then republish to my site. The idea is to get people to consume and add to the collective knowledge on the topic and maybe even use phrases as either a collection point for related material.

Does this lead to complexity? Actually no. If anything, it plays directly to common sense thinking applied to topic specific content. The trick for gardening professionals is getting them to understand the common sense nature of people’s thinking about search phrases rather than trying to be clever about likely attention getting phrases.

So the fact KPMG created illegal tax shelters is both topic (illegal tax shelters) and event/business (KPMG) specific starts to work in many ways.

Over time, we might - using my example - use phrase memes in many ways…what about reputation assessment?

There is a problem. Today, most of my audience relies on straight Google style search and usually see sites as an electronic ad space. The upside is it allows people like myself to experiment without fear of debate around what a phrase meme means (sic.)

It’s a hugely important topic. Let’s keep this one going.

]]> By: Larry Irons http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-925 Larry Irons Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:44:34 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-925 I like the way you casually introduced the concept of "family resemblance." Shades of Wittgenstein. You might find Jill Walker's essay on feral hypertext interesting since she distinguishes between feral and domesticated hypertext. However, I must say I see more potential in the approach you lay out. <a href="http://jilltxt.net/txt/FeralHypertext.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://jilltxt.net/txt/FeralHypertext.pdf</a> I like the way you casually introduced the concept of “family resemblance.” Shades of Wittgenstein.

You might find Jill Walker’s essay on feral hypertext interesting since she distinguishes between feral and domesticated hypertext. However, I must say I see more potential in the approach you lay out.

http://jilltxt.net/txt/FeralHypertext.pdf

]]> By: Stewart http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-924 Stewart Wed, 11 Jan 2006 05:18:44 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-924 This is a solution waiting for a fix, all this leads to (at least to me) is better search... This is a solution waiting for a fix, all this leads to (at least to me) is better search…

]]> By: David Harris http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-923 David Harris Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:09:38 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-923 If URIs are like leaves and ontologies like trees. Does a tag gardener place leaves on trees? A single URI can fit on many trees. A persons epistological conceptual continuity would lead him to favor one gardener over another. If URIs are like leaves and ontologies like trees. Does a tag gardener place leaves on trees? A single URI can fit on many trees. A persons epistological conceptual continuity would lead him to favor one gardener over another.

]]> By: havi http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-922 havi Wed, 11 Jan 2006 01:27:21 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2006/01/10/on-the-emergence-of-professional-tag-gardeners/#comment-922 this is utterly lovely -- if we took down the walled gardens and replaced with tag gardens -- weed have a metaphorical field day! thank you, thank you. so, is lucas gonze's lightnet meme/tag another example of what you mean? is that tag gardening? this is utterly lovely — if we took down the walled gardens and replaced with tag gardens — weed have a metaphorical field day! thank you, thank you. so, is lucas gonze’s lightnet meme/tag another example of what you mean? is that tag gardening?

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