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	<title>Comments on: On Questions of Analyst Value</title>
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		<title>By: sogrady</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2004/09/27/on-questions-of-analyst-value/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>sogrady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2004 05:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that James and I would both back any iniative that requires full-disclosure for funded studies, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;d get a lot of traction. To be fair to other firms as well, many of them do disclose that information.

What I can&#039;t figure out is that if enterprises and the press tell me (and they do, constantly) that they pay little if any attention to funded studies, why do ISVs pay SO much  cash for them? You wouldn&#039;t believe the sums of money offered. 

Just doesn&#039;t make sense to me. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that James and I would both back any iniative that requires full-disclosure for funded studies, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;d get a lot of traction. To be fair to other firms as well, many of them do disclose that information.</p>
<p>What I can&#8217;t figure out is that if enterprises and the press tell me (and they do, constantly) that they pay little if any attention to funded studies, why do ISVs pay SO much  cash for them? You wouldn&#8217;t believe the sums of money offered. </p>
<p>Just doesn&#8217;t make sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rock</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2004/09/27/on-questions-of-analyst-value/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And since I was the other person mentioned (I run LotusGeek), yeah, I am skeptical too; however I do realize that there are many good industry analysts out there as well. The Burton Group comes to mind - why? Because I happen to know one of their analysts, and I know that they take no vendor sponsorship for their research. I view them as a type of &quot;consumer reports&quot; for deep tech stuff, industry trends, etc. I am also confident that there are others who are equally unbiased and objective in their analysis.

However there is a disproportionate amount of opinion whores out there, who are willing to give a great &quot;analysis&quot; to the highest bidder. I wish that analyst firms were required to mention who funded their reports - this would allow us, as consumers, to use a more critical eye when reviewing the report.

Rock, aka Lotus.Geek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And since I was the other person mentioned (I run LotusGeek), yeah, I am skeptical too; however I do realize that there are many good industry analysts out there as well. The Burton Group comes to mind &#8211; why? Because I happen to know one of their analysts, and I know that they take no vendor sponsorship for their research. I view them as a type of &#8220;consumer reports&#8221; for deep tech stuff, industry trends, etc. I am also confident that there are others who are equally unbiased and objective in their analysis.</p>
<p>However there is a disproportionate amount of opinion whores out there, who are willing to give a great &#8220;analysis&#8221; to the highest bidder. I wish that analyst firms were required to mention who funded their reports &#8211; this would allow us, as consumers, to use a more critical eye when reviewing the report.</p>
<p>Rock, aka Lotus.Geek</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Linfoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Linfoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well yes, you got me right. I am British. And I am sceptical about self appointed experts but honestly, who wouldn&#039;t be?

The apocryphal example I cite in my original post is indeed one about SAN or NAS or similar but I get plenty of others about software, business process outsourcing and so on too. I chose that example because it was comparatively generic and I wanted to make a point without embarrassing any one particular analyst firm.

My scepticism is borne out by bitter experience. So many of these outfits go on endlessly about TCO and ROI and best practice and so very few appear to offer any connection, howsowever tenuous, to the real world.

We have a saying here, usually used to deride the teaching profession - those who can do, those who can&#039;t teach. That seems to me to work pretty well for many IT industry commentators too.

Bottom line - it&#039;s all about delivery. It is about what you can do, what you have done, what you will do, not what a supplier or consultant can sell to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well yes, you got me right. I am British. And I am sceptical about self appointed experts but honestly, who wouldn&#8217;t be?</p>
<p>The apocryphal example I cite in my original post is indeed one about SAN or NAS or similar but I get plenty of others about software, business process outsourcing and so on too. I chose that example because it was comparatively generic and I wanted to make a point without embarrassing any one particular analyst firm.</p>
<p>My scepticism is borne out by bitter experience. So many of these outfits go on endlessly about TCO and ROI and best practice and so very few appear to offer any connection, howsowever tenuous, to the real world.</p>
<p>We have a saying here, usually used to deride the teaching profession &#8211; those who can do, those who can&#8217;t teach. That seems to me to work pretty well for many IT industry commentators too.</p>
<p>Bottom line &#8211; it&#8217;s all about delivery. It is about what you can do, what you have done, what you will do, not what a supplier or consultant can sell to you.</p>
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