Comments on: Cloud Computing and Linux – A Presentation http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/ One foot in the muck, the other in utopia Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:28:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: delacruz mizrachi http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-341323 delacruz mizrachi Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:50:50 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/#comment-341323 Nice article, especially the Expectations,The 3 *aaS’s of Cloud Computing,Why Cloud Computing? Concerns. http://bygsoft.wordpress.com/2010/01/09/cloudy-combo-google-app-engine-and-amazon-s3-combo-pack/ Nice article, especially the Expectations,The 3 *aaS’s of Cloud Computing,Why Cloud Computing?
Concerns.
http://bygsoft.wordpress.com/2010/01/09/cloudy-combo-google-app-engine-and-amazon-s3-combo-pack/

]]> By: Definition of Cloud Computing – Again – Jim Kaskade http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-340783 Definition of Cloud Computing – Again – Jim Kaskade Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:39:10 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/#comment-340783 [...] cloud. He starts out acknowledging that a definition is needed, but then continues to elaborate here. Before cloud computing was all the rage, if you recall, we were all nuts about [...] [...] cloud. He starts out acknowledging that a definition is needed, but then continues to elaborate here. Before cloud computing was all the rage, if you recall, we were all nuts about [...]

]]> By: Do operating systems still matter? - Technology http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-314982 Do operating systems still matter? - Technology Sat, 18 Apr 2009 01:02:02 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/#comment-314982 [...] as fellow Redmonker Michael Coté separately observed, developers tend to have increasingly less allegiance to the operating system than to other [...] [...] as fellow Redmonker Michael Coté separately observed, developers tend to have increasingly less allegiance to the operating system than to other [...]

]]> By: Ian Murdock’s Weblog » Do operating systems still matter? http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-314972 Ian Murdock’s Weblog » Do operating systems still matter? Sat, 18 Apr 2009 00:22:25 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/#comment-314972 [...] as fellow Redmonker Michael Coté separately observed, developers tend to have increasingly less allegiance to the operating system than to other [...] [...] as fellow Redmonker Michael Coté separately observed, developers tend to have increasingly less allegiance to the operating system than to other [...]

]]> By: BotchagalupeMarks for April 14th - 09:42 | IT Management and Cloud Blog http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-314134 BotchagalupeMarks for April 14th - 09:42 | IT Management and Cloud Blog Wed, 15 Apr 2009 05:37:13 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/#comment-314134 [...] People Over Process » Cloud Computing and Linux - A Presentation - When I have a presentation to give, I’m increasingly writing out my spiel (after drawing up the slides), which was the case with the talk I gave this morning at the Linux Foundation’s Collaboration Summit on Cloud Computing and Linux. [...] [...] People Over Process » Cloud Computing and Linux – A Presentation – When I have a presentation to give, I’m increasingly writing out my spiel (after drawing up the slides), which was the case with the talk I gave this morning at the Linux Foundation’s Collaboration Summit on Cloud Computing and Linux. [...]

]]> By: Vincent http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-313646 Vincent Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:15:36 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/#comment-313646 Michael, I just wanted to add that the OS will continue to matter quite a bit. As a start-up back in 2000, we contemplated the Linux platform long and hard. But as you mentioned, the "stack" is something that developers will always need to consider. Our stack comprised mainly of .NET developers. Even though Linux was the platform of choice due to it's open source nature, there was no support for what we were doing. We've been operating under the Windows environment, but have always tracked the progress of Linux + .NET. Specifically, we've been monitoring the progress of Mono. We still see that the platform needs to mature before even considering a switch. Vince <a href="http://www.mhelpdesk.com" title="MHelpdesk" rel="nofollow">MHelpdesk</a>, <a href="http://www.mhelpdesk.com/service-management-software.aspx" title="Service management software" rel="nofollow">Service Management Software</a> Michael,

I just wanted to add that the OS will continue to matter quite a bit. As a start-up back in 2000, we contemplated the Linux platform long and hard. But as you mentioned, the “stack” is something that developers will always need to consider. Our stack comprised mainly of .NET developers. Even though Linux was the platform of choice due to it’s open source nature, there was no support for what we were doing. We’ve been operating under the Windows environment, but have always tracked the progress of Linux + .NET. Specifically, we’ve been monitoring the progress of Mono. We still see that the platform needs to mature before even considering a switch.

Vince
MHelpdesk, Service Management Software

]]> By: Links 11/04/2009: Wine 1.1.19 Released; Gtk+ 3 Roadmap Shaping Up | Boycott Novell http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-313331 Links 11/04/2009: Wine 1.1.19 Released; Gtk+ 3 Roadmap Shaping Up | Boycott Novell Sun, 12 Apr 2009 01:26:55 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/#comment-313331 [...] Cloud Computing and Linux - A Presentation When I have a presentation to give, I’m increasingly writing out my spiel (after drawing up the slides), which was the case with the talk I gave this morning at the Linux Foundation’s Collaboration Summit on Cloud Computing and Linux. Thing means for you, dear readers, there’s some meaty text to skim through instead of just boney slides. Also, this time I recorded a practice read-through of the talk which you could watch as well, below. I’m one of those people who never gives the same presentation twice, but you can get an idea of this mornings talk from one or both of the below: [...] [...] Cloud Computing and Linux – A Presentation When I have a presentation to give, I’m increasingly writing out my spiel (after drawing up the slides), which was the case with the talk I gave this morning at the Linux Foundation’s Collaboration Summit on Cloud Computing and Linux. Thing means for you, dear readers, there’s some meaty text to skim through instead of just boney slides. Also, this time I recorded a practice read-through of the talk which you could watch as well, below. I’m one of those people who never gives the same presentation twice, but you can get an idea of this mornings talk from one or both of the below: [...]

]]> By: Cloud Computing and Linux - A Presentation | Ubuntu-News - Your one stop for news about Ubuntu http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-313208 Cloud Computing and Linux - A Presentation | Ubuntu-News - Your one stop for news about Ubuntu Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:49:32 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/#comment-313208 [...] When I have a presentation to give, I’m increasingly writing out my spiel (after drawing up the slides), which was the case with the talk I gave this morning at the Linux Foundation’s Collaboration Summit on Cloud Computing and Linux. Read more here [...] [...] When I have a presentation to give, I’m increasingly writing out my spiel (after drawing up the slides), which was the case with the talk I gave this morning at the Linux Foundation’s Collaboration Summit on Cloud Computing and Linux. Read more here [...]

]]> By: Linux Foundation News » Blog Archive » RedMonk: Cloud Computing and Linux - A Presentation http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-313041 Linux Foundation News » Blog Archive » RedMonk: Cloud Computing and Linux - A Presentation Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:27:01 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/#comment-313041 [...] Analyst Michael Cote shares the presentation that he gave at the Linux Foundation’s 2009 Collaboration Summit. [...] [...] Analyst Michael Cote shares the presentation that he gave at the Linux Foundation’s 2009 Collaboration Summit. [...]

]]> By: Christopher Mahan http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-313013 Christopher Mahan Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:04:56 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/09/cloud-computing-and-linux-a-presentation/#comment-313013 Typo alert: in the following paragraph, "buy" should be "but". The most low-hanging fruit is simply people wanting to setup their own clouds and using Linux for it. Whether it’s free, support-paid, custom made, whatever. Very few people - read: Microsoft and Sun, maybe IBM - are going to use anything buy Linux for clouds they build. You write also: "Finally, there’s the SaaS GPL killer: the trade-off between “free,” open source Linux and non-paying customers is gets jacked around by Linux. More importantly, there’s some concern over the role of open source if no software distribution actually occurs: if a user only sees a front-end, did the code get distributed?" The answer to that is the Affero General Public License. See. http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/agpl-3.0.html Typo alert: in the following paragraph, “buy” should be “but”.

The most low-hanging fruit is simply people wanting to setup their own clouds and using Linux for it. Whether it’s free, support-paid, custom made, whatever. Very few people – read: Microsoft and Sun, maybe IBM – are going to use anything buy Linux for clouds they build.

You write also:

“Finally, there’s the SaaS GPL killer: the trade-off between “free,” open source Linux and non-paying customers is gets jacked around by Linux. More importantly, there’s some concern over the role of open source if no software distribution actually occurs: if a user only sees a front-end, did the code get distributed?”

The answer to that is the Affero General Public License. See.
http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/agpl-3.0.html

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