Comments on: IT Management and Cloud Podcast #40 – Cloud Hoopla, The ITSM Quandry, Model-driven IT http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/02/it-management-and-cloud-podcast-40-cloud-hoopla-the-itsm-quandry-model-driven-it/ One foot in the muck, the other in utopia Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:28:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: enterpriseGeeks » Enterprise Geeks Podcast - No Rest for the Weary http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/02/it-management-and-cloud-podcast-40-cloud-hoopla-the-itsm-quandry-model-driven-it/comment-page-1/#comment-313678 enterpriseGeeks » Enterprise Geeks Podcast - No Rest for the Weary Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:14:15 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/02/it-management-and-cloud-podcast-40-cloud-hoopla-the-itsm-quandry-model-driven-it/#comment-313678 [...] 35:00 - Cote and Willis chime in on the open cloud manifesto [...] [...] 35:00 – Cote and Willis chime in on the open cloud manifesto [...]

]]> By: The IT Skeptic http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/02/it-management-and-cloud-podcast-40-cloud-hoopla-the-itsm-quandry-model-driven-it/comment-page-1/#comment-311203 The IT Skeptic Sat, 04 Apr 2009 10:21:11 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/02/it-management-and-cloud-podcast-40-cloud-hoopla-the-itsm-quandry-model-driven-it/#comment-311203 Guys, Resourcing the Cloud is one thing but I'm interested in your view on another key point in my blog on Cloud: CODE CHANGES. It may be a good thing for new apps and for low level storage or op-sys level abstraction, but it is not gonna be attractive for almost all legacy apps so long as it involves code changes: too much work and expense for zero business-visible change. Rewriting the code is 5% of the cost. Why are we getting all worked up over something that will be a niche technology for the next five, seven, ten years? Because it is hype-du-jour, that's why. People are trying to hype money out of it now. Right now it is a mildly interesting future... Guys,
Resourcing the Cloud is one thing but I’m interested in your view on another key point in my blog on Cloud: CODE CHANGES. It may be a good thing for new apps and for low level storage or op-sys level abstraction, but it is not gonna be attractive for almost all legacy apps so long as it involves code changes: too much work and expense for zero business-visible change. Rewriting the code is 5% of the cost. Why are we getting all worked up over something that will be a niche technology for the next five, seven, ten years? Because it is hype-du-jour, that’s why. People are trying to hype money out of it now. Right now it is a mildly interesting future…

]]> By: JP http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/02/it-management-and-cloud-podcast-40-cloud-hoopla-the-itsm-quandry-model-driven-it/comment-page-1/#comment-310754 JP Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:41:55 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/02/it-management-and-cloud-podcast-40-cloud-hoopla-the-itsm-quandry-model-driven-it/#comment-310754 Some editorial comments. For starters, you talk way too much about Ruven Cohen. He has done nothing to make the cloud better and has only alienated and confused more. I would have to disagree on the Eucalyptus comments. The primary purpose of that project was to find new ways to provide better resource management for research projects and it morphed. The primary developers are not students. One is a tenured professor, one is a adjunct professor and others are graduates and graduate students. This is a well managed project and you failed to mention what Canonical/Ubuntu is doing to help the project!!!! I lost interest after 35 minutes so I can't comment on the rest. Some editorial comments.
For starters, you talk way too much about Ruven Cohen. He has done nothing to make the cloud better and has only alienated and confused more.

I would have to disagree on the Eucalyptus comments. The primary purpose of that project was to find new ways to provide better resource management for research projects and it morphed. The primary developers are not students. One is a tenured professor, one is a adjunct professor and others are graduates and graduate students. This is a well managed project and you failed to mention what Canonical/Ubuntu is doing to help the project!!!!

I lost interest after 35 minutes so I can’t comment on the rest.

]]> By: Cloud Hoopla, The ITSM Quandry, Model-driven ITast #40 | IT Management and Cloud Blog http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/02/it-management-and-cloud-podcast-40-cloud-hoopla-the-itsm-quandry-model-driven-it/comment-page-1/#comment-310569 Cloud Hoopla, The ITSM Quandry, Model-driven ITast #40 | IT Management and Cloud Blog Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:24:05 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/04/02/it-management-and-cloud-podcast-40-cloud-hoopla-the-itsm-quandry-model-driven-it/#comment-310569 [...] IT Management and Cloud Podcast #40 [...] [...] IT Management and Cloud Podcast #40 [...]

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