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	<title>Comments on: #ls09 &#8211; The Long Run from Good Enough to Fantastic</title>
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	<description>One foot in the muck, the other in utopia</description>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; Pulse 2009 - WOO&#8217;ing the Cloud - IT Management Podcast Special</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/01/21/ls09/comment-page-1/#comment-293090</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; Pulse 2009 - WOO&#8217;ing the Cloud - IT Management Podcast Special</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finally, we wrap-up discussing the Tivoli cloud computing story we&#8217;ve been seeing evolve here at Pulse. James is (still) not too happy with the IBM cloud story. That said, he suggests pulling in the OnDemand phrase and discussion from the past, the content of which he liked. I add in that the cloud computing discussion seems to be around what cloud means for operations people, not end-users, where you&#8217;d expect to hear more from the Lotus folks (as we did back at Lotusphere this year). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finally, we wrap-up discussing the Tivoli cloud computing story we&#8217;ve been seeing evolve here at Pulse. James is (still) not too happy with the IBM cloud story. That said, he suggests pulling in the OnDemand phrase and discussion from the past, the content of which he liked. I add in that the cloud computing discussion seems to be around what cloud means for operations people, not end-users, where you&#8217;d expect to hear more from the Lotus folks (as we did back at Lotusphere this year). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; The State of Analyst Relations - Interview</title>
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		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; The State of Analyst Relations - Interview</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at Lotusphere this year, John Simonds interviewed me as the first part in a new podcast of his, &#8220;An Analystâ€™s View [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at Lotusphere this year, John Simonds interviewed me as the first part in a new podcast of his, &#8220;An Analystâ€™s View [...]</p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; Team Cloud at IBM</title>
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		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; Team Cloud at IBM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] productize that and sell it pronto!&#8221; While at Lotusphere this year, I heard that some of the LotusLive.com product came from that work. See more about the HiPODs in this 2007 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] productize that and sell it pronto!&#8221; While at Lotusphere this year, I heard that some of the LotusLive.com product came from that work. See more about the HiPODs in this 2007 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cote&#039;</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/01/21/ls09/comment-page-1/#comment-287578</link>
		<dc:creator>Cote&#039;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed: indeed. Batting around numbers is always a rat-hole of qualifications, esp. when the numbers get enterprise. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed: indeed. Batting around numbers is always a rat-hole of qualifications, esp. when the numbers get enterprise. </p>
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		<title>By: Ed Brill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Brill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, I am not sure that the $340,000 question is accurate.  One of the fallacies of the Google $50/user/year number is it assumes that you have zero additional costs.  That couldn&#039;t be more wrong.  Not only do you still have to worry about connectivity and bandwidth, you have to have some kind of 1st level help desk, someone to administer directory management, someone to handle compliance requests, and someone to think about rich client deployments for offline usage.  I am a huge believer in driving down the operational costs for messaging, but I also think it&#039;s critical to look at the full force and cost of the operation. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I am not sure that the $340,000 question is accurate.  One of the fallacies of the Google $50/user/year number is it assumes that you have zero additional costs.  That couldn&#039;t be more wrong.  Not only do you still have to worry about connectivity and bandwidth, you have to have some kind of 1st level help desk, someone to administer directory management, someone to handle compliance requests, and someone to think about rich client deployments for offline usage.  I am a huge believer in driving down the operational costs for messaging, but I also think it&#039;s critical to look at the full force and cost of the operation. </p>
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		<title>By: Drunk &#38; Retired - DrunkAndRetired.com # 144 - Ripple</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/01/21/ls09/comment-page-1/#comment-287060</link>
		<dc:creator>Drunk &#38; Retired - DrunkAndRetired.com # 144 - Ripple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A little bit on Lotusphere 2009 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; IT Management Podcast #33 - The Night John Saw Stevie Ray Vaughn in a Taco Place</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/01/21/ls09/comment-page-1/#comment-286626</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; IT Management Podcast #33 - The Night John Saw Stevie Ray Vaughn in a Taco Place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lotusphere entering IBM into SaaS. Is &#8220;good enough&#8221; good enough? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lotusphere entering IBM into SaaS. Is &#8220;good enough&#8221; good enough? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; How I Was Wrong About The Fearsome Engine That is IBM, Or, Thoughts on Software and Elephants</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; How I Was Wrong About The Fearsome Engine That is IBM, Or, Thoughts on Software and Elephants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] taking enough risks when it came to creating new markets. Everything always had to be all about the The Companies Who Run The World, the Fortune-We-Donâ€™t-Use-37Signals-Hundred. IBM wasn&#8217;t going to invest in things without a guaranteed payoff- R&amp;D becomes a purely [...]</description>
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