Comments on: Microsoft’s Latest Open Bit: More Interop http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/ One foot in the muck, the other in utopia Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:18:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: mohangk.org/blog » Blog Archive » ‘Proprietary’ is a bad word, especially when it should be ‘commodity’ http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-201615 mohangk.org/blog » Blog Archive » ‘Proprietary’ is a bad word, especially when it should be ‘commodity’ Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:31:17 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-201615 [...] century. Interoperability and data portability is becoming important, and more so in the enterprise space. The tides are changing from closed to open systems and customers are being reeducated to see this [...] [...] century. Interoperability and data portability is becoming important, and more so in the enterprise space. The tides are changing from closed to open systems and customers are being reeducated to see this [...]

]]> By: People Over Process » System Center Cross Platform - Finally, Heterogenous Support in System Center - MMS08 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-174600 People Over Process » System Center Cross Platform - Finally, Heterogenous Support in System Center - MMS08 Fri, 02 May 2008 22:27:22 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-174600 [...] In talking with Microsoft, I tried to vet the idea of anyone coming along and integrating with the Cross Platform agent. I haven’t done my due diligence, but their intention was to have anyone and everyone develop an extension if they wanted. There’s still the fine-print to look over, Microsoft told me all the needed docs would be available for anyone to come along and build such an extension. I’m always cautious as I’ve been bitten by such hopefully thinking in the past. [...] [...] In talking with Microsoft, I tried to vet the idea of anyone coming along and integrating with the Cross Platform agent. I haven’t done my due diligence, but their intention was to have anyone and everyone develop an extension if they wanted. There’s still the fine-print to look over, Microsoft told me all the needed docs would be available for anyone to come along and build such an extension. I’m always cautious as I’ve been bitten by such hopefully thinking in the past. [...]

]]> By: People Over Process » Microsoft working with Eclipse - EclipseCon 2008 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-161671 People Over Process » Microsoft working with Eclipse - EclipseCon 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:02:02 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-161671 [...] the benefit of the doubt from the open source crowd. Your analyst here tends to fall into this camp having fallen victim to quick of skimming of the recent interop memo from Microsoft and missing the key “not for commercial use” clause, having to rely on Dalibor to point [...] [...] the benefit of the doubt from the open source crowd. Your analyst here tends to fall into this camp having fallen victim to quick of skimming of the recent interop memo from Microsoft and missing the key “not for commercial use” clause, having to rely on Dalibor to point [...]

]]> By: OSS Clips (21/2/2008) | Marketing OSS http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-155434 OSS Clips (21/2/2008) | Marketing OSS Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:17:36 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-155434 [...] Microsoft’s Latest Open Bit: More Interop [...] [...] Microsoft’s Latest Open Bit: More Interop [...]

]]> By: Dave Livingston http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-154189 Dave Livingston Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:30:16 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-154189 My question is if anybody will ever trust FSF/GNU? My question is if anybody will ever trust FSF/GNU?

]]> By: Don Strawsburg http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-154146 Don Strawsburg Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:03:10 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-154146 Underpants Gnomes... hehe Microsoft never ceases to amaze me, name one time Gates and Company played fair. I mean Microsoft has built an empire on the same perverse business plan since day one. Back to the GWBasic days, selling technology they would either need to steal or buy. Gates has been that same guy that stands outside the court asking if he can play b-ball with you, until you say sure, then he gets mad, grabs the ball and runs away with it. Next week, he's back, wanting to play again, new crowd of guys, sure play, grabs ball and runs away. time after time again, Billy has been stealing the ball (technology) and running away with it. He only comes back when he needs something, never hear from him until then. Steve Jobs dealt with this, and lost a GUI to MSoft, Novell (lost entire business), QuarterDeck (lost disk compression technology), Sun (Java to J++, then C#, CLR vs JVM), does this list ever stop. Now Gates is back, come on guys let me play, and you know, this weasel is gonna grab the ball and run away. And when he can't get the ball, he takes the players, Play on my team, Ray Ozzie, creator of Lotus Notes, trying to buy Yahoo, for what, Zimbra, Vincent Gullotto, MaCafee, Tom Hanrahan (Linux Foundation) I hope everyone has learned, when Bill shows up, expect something to get stolen. Underpants Gnomes… hehe

Microsoft never ceases to amaze me, name one time Gates and Company played fair. I mean Microsoft has built an empire on the same perverse business plan since day one. Back to the GWBasic days, selling technology they would either need to steal or buy.

Gates has been that same guy that stands outside the court asking if he can play b-ball with you, until you say sure, then he gets mad, grabs the ball and runs away with it. Next week, he’s back, wanting to play again, new crowd of guys, sure play, grabs ball and runs away. time after time again, Billy has been stealing the ball (technology) and running away with it. He only comes back when he needs something, never hear from him until then.

Steve Jobs dealt with this, and lost a GUI to MSoft, Novell (lost entire business), QuarterDeck (lost disk compression technology), Sun (Java to J++, then C#, CLR vs JVM), does this list ever stop.

Now Gates is back, come on guys let me play, and you know, this weasel is gonna grab the ball and run away.

And when he can’t get the ball, he takes the players, Play on my team, Ray Ozzie, creator of Lotus Notes, trying to buy Yahoo, for what, Zimbra, Vincent Gullotto, MaCafee, Tom Hanrahan (Linux Foundation)

I hope everyone has learned, when Bill shows up, expect something to get stolen.

]]> By: Is Microsoft using the “anti-lock-in” argument from OSS’s playbook? « rand($thoughts); http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-154061 Is Microsoft using the “anti-lock-in” argument from OSS’s playbook? « rand($thoughts); Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:13:02 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-154061 [...] Microsoft’s interop announcement actually protects against lock-in. It seems like Cote would agree: “Overall, the thrust of the press release is that Microsoft is going to make the [...] [...] Microsoft’s interop announcement actually protects against lock-in. It seems like Cote would agree: “Overall, the thrust of the press release is that Microsoft is going to make the [...]

]]> By: Dalibor Topic http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-154060 Dalibor Topic Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:03:56 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-154060 Non-commercial is a non-starter. They can always fix that by removing the word, if they care about actually having a covenant that covers more then 0 developers. Non-commercial is a non-starter. They can always fix that by removing the word, if they care about actually having a covenant that covers more then 0 developers.

]]> By: cote http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-154050 cote Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:23:06 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-154050 Dalibor: yeah, they're always slipping a zinger like that in there, huh? <sigh></sigh> Dalibor: yeah, they’re always slipping a zinger like that in there, huh?

]]> By: Bob Warfield http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-154042 Bob Warfield Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:05:18 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/21/microsofts-latest-open-bit-more-interop/#comment-154042 This Microsoft announcement are not the Open droids you're looking for. Move on. This announcement is all about giving even more encouragement to get you to do what Microsoft wants you to do and little else. More on my blog: http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2008/02/21/microsofts-new-openness-is-about-making-it-easier-for-you-to-do-what-they-want-you-to-do/ Best, BW This Microsoft announcement are not the Open droids you’re looking for. Move on.

This announcement is all about giving even more encouragement to get you to do what Microsoft wants you to do and little else.

More on my blog:

http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2008/02/21/microsofts-new-openness-is-about-making-it-easier-for-you-to-do-what-they-want-you-to-do/

Best,

BW

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