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	<title>Comments on: Sun buying MySQL, Oracle buying BEA</title>
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	<description>One foot in the muck, the other in utopia</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; A few further thoughts on Sun/MySQL</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/01/16/sun-buying-mysql-oracle-buying-bea/#comment-187242</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; A few further thoughts on Sun/MySQL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have been some suggestions that Sun&#8217;s acquisition of MySQL is the prelude to a cloud computing play. That certainly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have been some suggestions that Sun&#8217;s acquisition of MySQL is the prelude to a cloud computing play. That certainly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; Oracle Buys The Present That Keeps on Giving: on BEA and M&#38;A</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/01/16/sun-buying-mysql-oracle-buying-bea/#comment-135089</link>
		<dc:creator>James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; Oracle Buys The Present That Keeps on Giving: on BEA and M&#38;A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We used Twitter to decide who covered what&#160;- I got BEA Oracle, but it seems Cote also had some thoughts in that respect. The big question more broadly here is how Oracle will either: (a.) use BEA’s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We used Twitter to decide who covered what&nbsp;- I got BEA Oracle, but it seems Cote also had some thoughts in that respect. The big question more broadly here is how Oracle will either: (a.) use BEA’s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/01/16/sun-buying-mysql-oracle-buying-bea/#comment-134578</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that is a nice logo to have :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that is a nice logo to have :)</p>
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		<title>By: cote</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/01/16/sun-buying-mysql-oracle-buying-bea/#comment-134476</link>
		<dc:creator>cote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel: makes sense. I guess that means Javier and co. can put Sun down as an OEM customer, then, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel: makes sense. I guess that means Javier and co. can put Sun down as an OEM customer, then, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/01/16/sun-buying-mysql-oracle-buying-bea/#comment-134339</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hyperic part is just SIGAR, a library that does some low-level metrics gathering, it could be easily swapped out (as opposed to the Hyperic Management framework). The core of the  MySQL network monitoring is written by MySQL itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hyperic part is just SIGAR, a library that does some low-level metrics gathering, it could be easily swapped out (as opposed to the Hyperic Management framework). The core of the  MySQL network monitoring is written by MySQL itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Yesterdays Observations on Sun/MySQL at John M Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/01/16/sun-buying-mysql-oracle-buying-bea/#comment-134244</link>
		<dc:creator>Yesterdays Observations on Sun/MySQL at John M Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Coté points out that the MySQL aquistion puts Sun in a good position for cloud computing. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: More thoughts on Sun &#38; MySQL &#171; rand($thoughts);</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/01/16/sun-buying-mysql-oracle-buying-bea/#comment-134002</link>
		<dc:creator>More thoughts on Sun &#38; MySQL &#171; rand($thoughts);</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 04:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Prediction of why Sun bought MySQL: Look up in the sky, it&#8217;s a bird, it&#8217;s a plane, no, it&#8217;s a MySQL db on a Sun cloud. (This idea comes from Cote). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Prediction of why Sun bought MySQL: Look up in the sky, it&#8217;s a bird, it&#8217;s a plane, no, it&#8217;s a MySQL db on a Sun cloud. (This idea comes from Cote). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cote</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/01/16/sun-buying-mysql-oracle-buying-bea/#comment-133744</link>
		<dc:creator>cote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob: that's a fun take, Bob. The "buying into the cloud" echo's the rest of the conversations I've had today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob: that&#8217;s a fun take, Bob. The &#8220;buying into the cloud&#8221; echo&#8217;s the rest of the conversations I&#8217;ve had today.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Warfield</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/01/16/sun-buying-mysql-oracle-buying-bea/#comment-133649</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Warfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cote, it doesn't feel to me like there is a big question here at all.  Congratulations on writing simultaneously about these two, because it makes much clearer what just happened:

Sun made a brilliant game changing move.  They've bought a front row seat at the unfolding web software and cloud computing future.  

Oracle, by contrast, paid a lot more to invest in an architecture that is in decline and that clearly the cloud computing world has already written off.

It's tough when you're afraid to cannibalize your own business.  But, as someone once said, if you don't, someone else will.

More on my blog:

http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2008/01/16/mysql-and-bea-oracle-and-sun-will-be-at-each-others-throats/

Best,

BW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cote, it doesn&#8217;t feel to me like there is a big question here at all.  Congratulations on writing simultaneously about these two, because it makes much clearer what just happened:</p>
<p>Sun made a brilliant game changing move.  They&#8217;ve bought a front row seat at the unfolding web software and cloud computing future.  </p>
<p>Oracle, by contrast, paid a lot more to invest in an architecture that is in decline and that clearly the cloud computing world has already written off.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s tough when you&#8217;re afraid to cannibalize your own business.  But, as someone once said, if you don&#8217;t, someone else will.</p>
<p>More on my blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2008/01/16/mysql-and-bea-oracle-and-sun-will-be-at-each-others-throats/" rel="nofollow">http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2008/01/16/mysql-and-bea-oracle-and-sun-will-be-at-each-others-throats/</a></p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>BW</p>
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		<title>By: Sun catching up with the 1980s</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/01/16/sun-buying-mysql-oracle-buying-bea/#comment-133628</link>
		<dc:creator>Sun catching up with the 1980s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] most noteworthy thing about the Sun purchase of MySQL isn&#8217;t the purchase itself, but that it took Sun as long as it has. Sun has been around since the dawn of time in IT terms, is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] most noteworthy thing about the Sun purchase of MySQL isn&#8217;t the purchase itself, but that it took Sun as long as it has. Sun has been around since the dawn of time in IT terms, is [...]</p>
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