Comments on: RedMonkTV: The Rise of the Designer/Developer Mashup Developer http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/10/08/redmonktv-the-rise-of-the-designerdeveloper-mashup-developer/ One foot in the muck, the other in utopia Tue, 22 May 2012 15:13:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: RIA Weekly » RIA Weekly 003 - Special Guest Andre “Captain Ajax” Charland, News Updates, and RIA 2008 Predications http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/10/08/redmonktv-the-rise-of-the-designerdeveloper-mashup-developer/comment-page-1/#comment-239824 RIA Weekly » RIA Weekly 003 - Special Guest Andre “Captain Ajax” Charland, News Updates, and RIA 2008 Predications Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:13:11 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/10/08/redmonktv-the-rise-of-the-designerdeveloper-mashup-developer/#comment-239824 [...] We then discuss my old hobby-horse: will this while designer/developer theory really pan out, or will it just be more of the same? The classic problem of the UI designers and the programmers not getting along is the one to get over here, and past attempts like JSPs in J2EE loom as not too successful attempts to harmonize the two. Ryan and André point out that this time, the initiative is lead more by designers than developers, and that they’re seeing more developers who are actually a merging of the two. (James and Dan McWeeney spoke on this topic on RedMonkTV sometime back.) [...] [...] We then discuss my old hobby-horse: will this while designer/developer theory really pan out, or will it just be more of the same? The classic problem of the UI designers and the programmers not getting along is the one to get over here, and past attempts like JSPs in J2EE loom as not too successful attempts to harmonize the two. Ryan and André point out that this time, the initiative is lead more by designers than developers, and that they’re seeing more developers who are actually a merging of the two. (James and Dan McWeeney spoke on this topic on RedMonkTV sometime back.) [...]

]]> By: People Over Process » RIA Weekly 003 - Special Guest Andre “Captain Ajax” Charland, News Updates, and RIA 2008 Predications http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/10/08/redmonktv-the-rise-of-the-designerdeveloper-mashup-developer/comment-page-1/#comment-126522 People Over Process » RIA Weekly 003 - Special Guest Andre “Captain Ajax” Charland, News Updates, and RIA 2008 Predications Sat, 05 Jan 2008 02:39:18 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/10/08/redmonktv-the-rise-of-the-designerdeveloper-mashup-developer/#comment-126522 [...] We then discuss my old hobby-horse: will this while designer/developer theory really pan out, or will it just be more of the same? The classic problem of the UI designers and the programmers not getting along is the one to get over here, and past attempts like JSPs in J2EE loom as not too successful attempts to harmonize the two. Ryan and André point out that this time, the initiative is lead more by designers than developers, and that they’re seeing more developers who are actually a merging of the two. (James and Dan McWeeney spoke on this topic on RedMonkTV sometime back.) [...] [...] We then discuss my old hobby-horse: will this while designer/developer theory really pan out, or will it just be more of the same? The classic problem of the UI designers and the programmers not getting along is the one to get over here, and past attempts like JSPs in J2EE loom as not too successful attempts to harmonize the two. Ryan and André point out that this time, the initiative is lead more by designers than developers, and that they’re seeing more developers who are actually a merging of the two. (James and Dan McWeeney spoke on this topic on RedMonkTV sometime back.) [...]

]]> By: James Governor’s Monkchips » On Synthesisers, View Source, and Declarative Living http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/10/08/redmonktv-the-rise-of-the-designerdeveloper-mashup-developer/comment-page-1/#comment-73741 James Governor’s Monkchips » On Synthesisers, View Source, and Declarative Living Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:25:38 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/10/08/redmonktv-the-rise-of-the-designerdeveloper-mashup-developer/#comment-73741 [...] days its not enough to build cool things. You have to help people understand how you do it. Synthesisers build stuff, but they also teach people - they do so with declarative living. Here is a really good [...] [...] days its not enough to build cool things. You have to help people understand how you do it. Synthesisers build stuff, but they also teach people – they do so with declarative living. Here is a really good [...]

]]> By: Christopher Mahan http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/10/08/redmonktv-the-rise-of-the-designerdeveloper-mashup-developer/comment-page-1/#comment-73587 Christopher Mahan Tue, 09 Oct 2007 01:44:02 +0000 http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/10/08/redmonktv-the-rise-of-the-designerdeveloper-mashup-developer/#comment-73587 That's EXACTLY how I build stuff. I have debian linux and windows 2003 server working in unison, web-services between them, with ASP, python, and php all mixed in. On the client, I have javascript and python packaged with py2exe to make windows 2k/XP/vista executables. Yes it's complicated, but it's as simple as possible, in fact. Doing it all with one platform with one language would involve horrible, horrible hacks. I'm going to add OpenSolaris/Indiana to the mix at some point. I also am looking to add PDF generation, and I just might pay for some adobe product, if latex2pdf doesn't do the trick. Btw, LaTeX is very good for do-it-yourselfers on budgets that don't mind highly complex applications. Oh, and some graphviz in there behind web-services... That’s EXACTLY how I build stuff. I have debian linux and windows 2003 server working in unison, web-services between them, with ASP, python, and php all mixed in. On the client, I have javascript and python packaged with py2exe to make windows 2k/XP/vista executables.

Yes it’s complicated, but it’s as simple as possible, in fact. Doing it all with one platform with one language would involve horrible, horrible hacks.

I’m going to add OpenSolaris/Indiana to the mix at some point.

I also am looking to add PDF generation, and I just might pay for some adobe product, if latex2pdf doesn’t do the trick. Btw, LaTeX is very good for do-it-yourselfers on budgets that don’t mind highly complex applications. Oh, and some graphviz in there behind web-services…

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