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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft&#8217;s REST Moves: Project &#8220;Astoria&#8221;</title>
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	<description>One foot in the muck, the other in utopia</description>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; Your Data in the Cloud - URL-based computing, SimpleDB, Astoria, etc.</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/04/30/microsofts-rest-moves-project-astoria/comment-page-1/#comment-125105</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; Your Data in the Cloud - URL-based computing, SimpleDB, Astoria, etc.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] must admit that, since last year when I went to a day-long review of Astoria, I haven&#8217;t followed it extremely closely, and I had to pass on the most recent Astoria review [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] must admit that, since last year when I went to a day-long review of Astoria, I haven&#8217;t followed it extremely closely, and I had to pass on the most recent Astoria review [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KaBlog / Actionatr, Web as Hash Pipe, and SaaS via Domain-Specific RESTful Hosting</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/04/30/microsofts-rest-moves-project-astoria/comment-page-1/#comment-105594</link>
		<dc:creator>KaBlog / Actionatr, Web as Hash Pipe, and SaaS via Domain-Specific RESTful Hosting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] night, talented RedMonk Analyst, Michael Coté posted a write up covering Microsoft&#8217;s Astoria project including this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] night, talented RedMonk Analyst, Michael Coté posted a write up covering Microsoft&#8217;s Astoria project including this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Darrel Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/04/30/microsofts-rest-moves-project-astoria/comment-page-1/#comment-29261</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrel Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 21:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The System.ServiceModel.Web that is included in the new Biztalk Services SDK is much closer to what I want to deal with.  It seems to be a thin layer over the basic WFC plumbing that makes creating REST apps extremely simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The System.ServiceModel.Web that is included in the new Biztalk Services SDK is much closer to what I want to deal with.  It seems to be a thin layer over the basic WFC plumbing that makes creating REST apps extremely simple.</p>
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		<title>By: cote</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/04/30/microsofts-rest-moves-project-astoria/comment-page-1/#comment-28050</link>
		<dc:creator>cote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 14:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darrel Miller: agreed on the spaces, and I see what you&#039;re saying about client side class generation. Did you find a place to input your concerns? The team seemed open when I talked with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darrel Miller: agreed on the spaces, and I see what you&#8217;re saying about client side class generation. Did you find a place to input your concerns? The team seemed open when I talked with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrel Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/04/30/microsofts-rest-moves-project-astoria/comment-page-1/#comment-28047</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrel Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 13:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on what I have learned since yesterday, so take it for what it is worth, I see two problems with the Astoria toolkit so far.  The first is the use of spaces in the urls.  Surely this is a major no-no.  Sure we can replace the spaces with %20 but isn&#039;t one of the intents to make the url somewhat legible.
There must be valid alternatives to the space!
The second part that I really don&#039;t like is the inclusion of the client side proxy class generators.  I think the toolkit should stop at delivering XML/json to the client.  By generating classes on the client the toolkit is guiding developers back to the problems of shared types and remote objects.  We don&#039;t want to go back there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on what I have learned since yesterday, so take it for what it is worth, I see two problems with the Astoria toolkit so far.  The first is the use of spaces in the urls.  Surely this is a major no-no.  Sure we can replace the spaces with %20 but isn&#8217;t one of the intents to make the url somewhat legible.<br />
There must be valid alternatives to the space!<br />
The second part that I really don&#8217;t like is the inclusion of the client side proxy class generators.  I think the toolkit should stop at delivering XML/json to the client.  By generating classes on the client the toolkit is guiding developers back to the problems of shared types and remote objects.  We don&#8217;t want to go back there.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex James</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/04/30/microsofts-rest-moves-project-astoria/comment-page-1/#comment-28033</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 11:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Cote&#039;(Redmonk) walks through Astoria, and recommends making a Microsoft go whole hog after turning Astoria into an SaaS platform...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Cote&#8217;(Redmonk) walks through Astoria, and recommends making a Microsoft go whole hog after turning Astoria into an SaaS platform&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex James</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/04/30/microsofts-rest-moves-project-astoria/comment-page-1/#comment-28028</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 11:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post.</p>
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		<title>By: cote</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/04/30/microsofts-rest-moves-project-astoria/comment-page-1/#comment-27981</link>
		<dc:creator>cote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 03:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher Mahan: not off topic at all. I really appreciate all your comments ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher Mahan: not off topic at all. I really appreciate all your comments ;)</p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; RIA Stacks Comin&#8217; &#8216;Atcha: Silverlight + Astoria, &#8220;Apollo&#8221; + LiveCycle Data Services, &#38; Lighting the Dark Data</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/04/30/microsofts-rest-moves-project-astoria/comment-page-1/#comment-27937</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; RIA Stacks Comin&#8217; &#8216;Atcha: Silverlight + Astoria, &#8220;Apollo&#8221; + LiveCycle Data Services, &#38; Lighting the Dark Data</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 21:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to wheel at delivering their own RIA stacks at the moment. You can see that Silverlight and Astoria provide the front-end and back-end, respectively for an RIA approach to web-aware application [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to wheel at delivering their own RIA stacks at the moment. You can see that Silverlight and Astoria provide the front-end and back-end, respectively for an RIA approach to web-aware application [...]</p>
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		<title>By: All in a days work&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/04/30/microsofts-rest-moves-project-astoria/comment-page-1/#comment-27923</link>
		<dc:creator>All in a days work&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 19:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Microsoft’s REST Moves: Project “Astoria” Something like S3, but with semantics layered on top. An “entity” here is essentially what we’d call a “resource” in REST-land. URL-driven design: entities and interacting with them can be represented as URLs, several “operations” you can pa (tags: Astoria URI SaaS) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Microsoft’s REST Moves: Project “Astoria” Something like S3, but with semantics layered on top. An “entity” here is essentially what we’d call a “resource” in REST-land. URL-driven design: entities and interacting with them can be represented as URLs, several “operations” you can pa (tags: Astoria URI SaaS) [...]</p>
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