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	<title>Comments on: MMS 2007: IT modeling with SML, and the current state thereof</title>
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	<description>One foot in the muck, the other in utopia</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 06:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; IT Management Podcast #006 - Oracle IT Management; SML, CML, &#38; Friends; Fog vs. Clouds; SLAs; The Hollywood Model Applied to Ops</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/04/04/mms-2007-it-modeling-with-sml-and-the-current-state-thereof/#comment-152097</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; IT Management Podcast #006 - Oracle IT Management; SML, CML, &#38; Friends; Fog vs. Clouds; SLAs; The Hollywood Model Applied to Ops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hearing that William worked on SML, we launch into a discussion of the evolution of SML, CML, and it&#8217;s origins in Microsoft&#8217;s SDM, MoF, and then CIM. As background, I tend to write-up posts on that topic when at Microsoft events like MMS or TechEd, for example, this one from MMS 2007. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hearing that William worked on SML, we launch into a discussion of the evolution of SML, CML, and it&#8217;s origins in Microsoft&#8217;s SDM, MoF, and then CIM. As background, I tend to write-up posts on that topic when at Microsoft events like MMS or TechEd, for example, this one from MMS 2007. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; IT Management Podcast #004 - Cloud-crazy!</title>
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		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; IT Management Podcast #004 - Cloud-crazy!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and whitepapers around the Common Model Library (CML), which is a further evolution of the SML family of IT Management data models. There&#8217;s a large cross-vendor effort, similar to the CMDBf, but there doesn&#8217;t seem to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and whitepapers around the Common Model Library (CML), which is a further evolution of the SML family of IT Management data models. There&#8217;s a large cross-vendor effort, similar to the CMDBf, but there doesn&#8217;t seem to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; Open Agents? The Need for Better Standards Work - barcampESM sessions</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/04/04/mms-2007-it-modeling-with-sml-and-the-current-state-thereof/#comment-136474</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; Open Agents? The Need for Better Standards Work - barcampESM sessions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that Microsoft was going nuts over the general idea of an IT management modeling specification with their standardizing of SDM to SML. Also, it should be noted, the DMTF&#8217;s CIM found wild success in Redmond: it&#8217;d be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that Microsoft was going nuts over the general idea of an IT management modeling specification with their standardizing of SDM to SML. Also, it should be noted, the DMTF&#8217;s CIM found wild success in Redmond: it&#8217;d be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; TechEd &#8216;07: Day 1 Keynote; Applying more Agility to developing Agile IT Management</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/04/04/mms-2007-it-modeling-with-sml-and-the-current-state-thereof/#comment-35725</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; TechEd &#8216;07: Day 1 Keynote; Applying more Agility to developing Agile IT Management</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] like self-flagilation (read: are a programmer) but not really what we&#8217;d like to have. While SML and SDM look to be baroque XML, it&#8217;s a nobel effort. What&#8217;s depressing for me is how slow and how opaque the process [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] like self-flagilation (read: are a programmer) but not really what we&#8217;d like to have. While SML and SDM look to be baroque XML, it&#8217;s a nobel effort. What&#8217;s depressing for me is how slow and how opaque the process [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pratul Dublish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pratul Dublish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This entry states that SML is unduly complex and related to SOAP. Complexity is a relative - writing a "hello world" program may be complex for someone who has no background in programming but trivial even for a novice programmer. SML is based on XML Schema and should not be complex for anyone who understand XML Schema. It is not related to SOAP - you don't need to know SOAP to understand SML and the SML specs do not use any SOAP concepts. 
SML is a general-purpose modeling language and is not meant to define any IT-specific models. The CML (Common Model Library) effort will create a standard library of SML-based common models for IT services and systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This entry states that SML is unduly complex and related to SOAP. Complexity is a relative - writing a &#8220;hello world&#8221; program may be complex for someone who has no background in programming but trivial even for a novice programmer. SML is based on XML Schema and should not be complex for anyone who understand XML Schema. It is not related to SOAP - you don&#8217;t need to know SOAP to understand SML and the SML specs do not use any SOAP concepts.<br />
SML is a general-purpose modeling language and is not meant to define any IT-specific models. The CML (Common Model Library) effort will create a standard library of SML-based common models for IT services and systems.</p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adobe SaaS Offerings</title>
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		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adobe SaaS Offerings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 20:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I mentioned kuler in passing. Of all the Adobe SaaS apps, it&#8217;s both the simplest and coolest. (OK, maybe [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I mentioned kuler in passing. Of all the Adobe SaaS apps, it&#8217;s both the simplest and coolest. (OK, maybe [...]</p>
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