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	<title>Comments on: SAS07 - Trip Report, Suite Dreams, More than Java, Fine Glass Cups, and The Battle Against Punk IT</title>
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	<description>One foot in the muck, the other in utopia</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; Sun buying VirtualBox - Desktop Virtualization and Virtual Labs</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/02/13/sas07-trip-report-suite-dreams-more-than-java-fine-glass-cups-and-the-battle-against-punk-it/#comment-150102</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; Sun buying VirtualBox - Desktop Virtualization and Virtual Labs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sun is a believer in customers digging (and buying) it&#8217;s entire stack, from metal, to middleware, to UI. Perhaps I&#8217;m reading too much into this, but something like VirtualBox seems like developer tooling. Indeed, much of the early success of virtualization as we know it today came from developers needing to run many different machines on one box. That is, instead of having a physical lab for all of their testing and development, they had &#8220;virtual labs.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sun is a believer in customers digging (and buying) it&#8217;s entire stack, from metal, to middleware, to UI. Perhaps I&#8217;m reading too much into this, but something like VirtualBox seems like developer tooling. Indeed, much of the early success of virtualization as we know it today came from developers needing to run many different machines on one box. That is, instead of having a physical lab for all of their testing and development, they had &#8220;virtual labs.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Creating new developer ecosystems: The Adobe Architecture as a Case</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/02/13/sas07-trip-report-suite-dreams-more-than-java-fine-glass-cups-and-the-battle-against-punk-it/#comment-34895</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Creating new developer ecosystems: The Adobe Architecture as a Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] often lambast companies for having &#8220;suite dreams&#8221; where-in any given vendor has a complete solution UI to middleware to database to even hardware. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] often lambast companies for having &#8220;suite dreams&#8221; where-in any given vendor has a complete solution UI to middleware to database to even hardware. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adobe SaaS Offerings</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/02/13/sas07-trip-report-suite-dreams-more-than-java-fine-glass-cups-and-the-battle-against-punk-it/#comment-21810</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adobe SaaS Offerings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 20:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] shift in thinking: the natural tendency of software, esp. commercial software, is to deliver on suite dreams and do [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] shift in thinking: the natural tendency of software, esp. commercial software, is to deliver on suite dreams and do [...]</p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A day in the life of&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/02/13/sas07-trip-report-suite-dreams-more-than-java-fine-glass-cups-and-the-battle-against-punk-it/#comment-18144</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A day in the life of&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] do the topics for posts come from? Events I&#8217;m at, announcements and news, briefings I&#8217;ve had, ideas and suggestions, overviews of new [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] do the topics for posts come from? Events I&#8217;m at, announcements and news, briefings I&#8217;ve had, ideas and suggestions, overviews of new [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ric</title>
		<link>http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/02/13/sas07-trip-report-suite-dreams-more-than-java-fine-glass-cups-and-the-battle-against-punk-it/#comment-7395</link>
		<dc:creator>Ric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 06:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other problem with a single-vendor stack is that they are only likely to work better if ALL the components have been built by that vendor - several components of Oracle's stack, for instance, have been purchased (and apparently not integrated all that well yet) - you might have to wait for the Fusion re-write to get what you pay for ...

Then there is the whole "monoculture vs biodiversity" debate - I'm firmly in the biodiversity camp, not wishing to be dependent on a single vendor. Why - because they can charge you more and more until they are just below the switching cost ... and you'll be stuck with it unless you bite the bullet and switch anyway (not always the easiest decision to sell to the CEO and CFO).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other problem with a single-vendor stack is that they are only likely to work better if ALL the components have been built by that vendor - several components of Oracle&#8217;s stack, for instance, have been purchased (and apparently not integrated all that well yet) - you might have to wait for the Fusion re-write to get what you pay for &#8230;</p>
<p>Then there is the whole &#8220;monoculture vs biodiversity&#8221; debate - I&#8217;m firmly in the biodiversity camp, not wishing to be dependent on a single vendor. Why - because they can charge you more and more until they are just below the switching cost &#8230; and you&#8217;ll be stuck with it unless you bite the bullet and switch anyway (not always the easiest decision to sell to the CEO and CFO).</p>
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		<title>By: Danno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 01:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y'know, I mean, changing towards openness or not, bleeding edge fast or not, I still don't trust the Java platform.  It just brings back too many bad memories of a CS class I took a long, long time ago and trying to work with Eclipse and Eclipse related tools.

There's a nasty taint in my mouth when I think about Java.  I'm no Microsoft fan, I really, really wish I could entirely ditch the 'dows, but I'd rather run on .NET</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;know, I mean, changing towards openness or not, bleeding edge fast or not, I still don&#8217;t trust the Java platform.  It just brings back too many bad memories of a CS class I took a long, long time ago and trying to work with Eclipse and Eclipse related tools.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a nasty taint in my mouth when I think about Java.  I&#8217;m no Microsoft fan, I really, really wish I could entirely ditch the &#8216;dows, but I&#8217;d rather run on .NET</p>
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